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What to do for my 3800seriesII Posted By: Ramwhad On: 03-12-2010 @ 18:14:01 Reply | Edit I got my first car this summer its a red 1997 camaro rs. Its nothin real fast or fancy but looks good and I love it 3.8 v6 and all. Money is tight so I just wanted to do a few mods nothing big, I was thinking like a cold air intake, dual exhaust, and possibly some headers. I'm not a mechanic by any means and wanted to know what to put on, what is cheap, where I can find stuff, and also will an intake or exhaust from a 3.4L or possibly another fbody work on mine? I'm just startin out here so go easy on me. Posted By: CayenneRedV6 On: 01-22-2009 @ 22:37:19 Reply | Top | Edit Personaly I wouldn't bother with headers, shorties don't do much and I don't think they make LT's for V6's yet. Cut the cat off and straight pipe it get a magnaflow cat-back and a whisper lid and K&N filter. Then call it a day. My $.02 -- R.I.P.-1998 V6 Camaro A4, whisper lid, deleted air silencer, 160* thermo, plugs and wires, SLP Cold Air Intake, Magnaflow Cat-Back, deleted cat, MSD DIS-4, MSD Coils Posted By: Howi152 On: 01-22-2009 @ 23:12:52 Reply | Top | Edit in my opinion: intake exhaust n2o spring shocks posi rims system tint short throw shifter if manual then its done -- 
Posted By: ObsidianSixer On: 01-22-2009 @ 23:19:58 Reply | Top | Edit They do make longtubes. Pacesetter painted mid legnth headers gut the cats whatever catback you want find a v8 rear end for cheap and swap it in. they come with 3.42s and lsd and disk brakes. dont mind getting some other itake, just find some lid for it and get a K&N filter HPtuners After those things, come back. -- 1997 T-70 Turbo V6 Camaro 1998 Firebird V6  Posted By: crunkmaro On: 01-22-2009 @ 23:53:27 Reply | Top | Edit ^ intake + exhaust. thats where everyone starts out. if you are looking for a lid...i have one for sale :-) Posted By: Ramwhad On: 01-22-2009 @ 23:58:53 Reply | Top | Edit whats a whisper lid and what does it mean to cut the cat off? What about those $50 cold air intakes on ebay would that be ok? Posted By: ObsidianSixer On: 01-23-2009 @ 00:06:29 Reply | Top | Edit Just do this exactly. lol. We will make this easy for you. We know what you need. Just take our word. Buy the lid from crunk. Go to some auto place in your area and buy a K&N filter for your car. Dont cut your cat off. Gut it. Take it off your exhaust and just rip everything out of it, or get a high flow cat, if you need a link for somewhere to get one, we will help you. Order painted mid length pacesetter headers for your car. Get whatever catback you want for your car. Popular ones are magnaflow and flowmaster ( I suggest magnaflow) Or you can just keep your whole exhaust form the headers back and get a cutout (Actually I reccomend that more  ) Search around for a V8 rear end. it will benefit you ALOT. Do this and then we will move from there.
5spd or A4? -- 1997 T-70 Turbo V6 Camaro 1998 Firebird V6 Posted By: CayenneRedV6 On: 01-23-2009 @ 00:44:32 Reply | Top | Edit Mid length headers aren't much better than shorties. Gutting the cats isn't a good idea either, cut it off and have a shop weld a pipe in its place. Of course if you get LT's you will have to get a new y-pipe any way. In reality it's never going to be fast unless you sink ALOT of money into it. But, if you want to make it a little more effeient and sound a little better, just do a cat-back, get a pipe welded in place of the catalytic convertor, and get the whisper lid and filter. -- R.I.P CayenneRedV6 99 Pewter TA, LT's, ORY, Magnaflow, SLP lid & cold air, Circle D 9.5" 3200 TC, LS6 intake, Ported TB, MSD wires, Tuned by trophystock Posted By: Storn On: 01-23-2009 @ 15:32:16 Reply | Top | Edit "and wanted to know what to put on, what is cheap, where I can find stuff" ^ that pretty much rules out long tubes. and for those of you that say the pacesetter headers arrent a good choice, or arrent worth it, i have to tell you the the largest gain i felt from all of my mods came from the headers. it may not have been an huge spike in power, but the amount of torque throughout the rpm range seemed to be vastly improved upon installing the headers. also you guys might want to clear up the whole rear end thing for him. there are codes that tell you what your car came with from the factory, they are RPO codes. they will be either in the glove box, or on the driver side door jam. this will let you know what gear your car has in the rear and if it has a limited slip diff or not, if it does have a limited slip diff, all the talk of getting the v8 rear end wont do you any good. that is what you want. the code for posi is G80 and the rear gears are as follows: GU2 : AXLE REAR, 2.73 RATIO GU4 : AXLE REAR, 3.08 RATIO GU5 : AXLE REAR, 3.23 RATIO GU6 : AXLE REAR, 3.42 RATIO the best of course from the factory would be a GU6 with a G80. my personal suggestion on the rear end would be to call around to local speed shops and see if any of them have or would be willing to call you in the event they have a customer come in with an ls1 car that perhaps has aftermarket gears and a limited slip diff, in which they will be replacing with a 9 or 12 bolt. <- that is exactly how i got my posi 3.73 setup for 150 dollars. for the rest. buy crunks lid stuff in a k&n filter i would suggest painted pacesetters (what i have) cat-back of your choice highflow cat optimal if in an area where you have emissions tests and of course it wouldnt hurt to do plugs and wires (if you do headers make sure you get aftermarket wires such as 90 degree boots on both ends to avoid melting the wires on the headers-this is a must) those few simple things will make quite a difference in your car and how it responds, as well as keep you under $1000 if you do the work yourself and can find some things used. oh and, welcome to the forum. --    2001 V6 5speed Posi 3.73's, Pacesetter Headers, Magnaflow High Flow Cat & Cat-Back, Cut-Out, Whisper Lid, Home Made EGR Delete, B&M Short Throw W/T-Handle, 180* Thermostat, 2-10in kicker comp vr's running off a momoblock, 4 infinity reference 6012's off a 4channel jbl... [ Edited on 01/23/2009 @ 15:34:31 ] Posted By: Ramwhad On: 01-23-2009 @ 19:51:44 Reply | Top | Edit I just found a camaro ls1 magnaflow catback and also an slp loudmouth exhaust from a v8 will either of these work on my car? [ Edited on 01/23/2009 @ 20:00:12 ] Posted By: crunkmaro On: 01-23-2009 @ 20:50:06 Reply | Top | Edit ^yes with modifications. don't rule out Clear Image automotive headers. i have those and they are great. Posted By: ObsidianSixer On: 01-23-2009 @ 23:44:54 Reply | Top | Edit Why deal with the pain of adapting it when you get a directly install catback? 
Headers do make a difference. V6's with 3.42 posi is EXTREMELY rare, You dont come upon Y87 packages typically. But yes, storn is correct, check what you have before you buy a rear end or install gears/lsd. But, it will be most likely be an open diffy with 3.08(A4) or 3.23(M5). FYI. SLP Loudmouth = loud and raspy. Magnaflow is more of a deeper tone with less rasp. But people have different opinions on them. -- 1997 T-70 Turbo V6 Camaro 1998 Firebird V6 Posted By: Storn On: 01-24-2009 @ 10:49:37 Reply | Top | Edit i personally am a fan of the magnaflow, i didnt want something obnoxiously loud, just wanted more performance. flowmaster is a chambered muffler and will typically not flow as well, but i cant deny i think they sound ok when there is no cat either. i could still sneak the gf away in the middle of the night, lol...but for the track and having fun with friends i got the cut-out, best of both worlds, imo. its all personal opinion and what you want to do with the car. --
2001 V6 5speed Posi 3.73's, Pacesetter Headers, Magnaflow High Flow Cat & Cat-Back, Cut-Out, Whisper Lid, Home Made EGR Delete, B&M Short Throw W/T-Handle, 180* Thermostat, 2-10in kicker comp vr's running off a momoblock, 4 infinity reference 6012's off a 4channel jbl... Posted By: Jeremiah On: 01-24-2009 @ 16:42:00 Reply | Top | Edit ..the longtubes thing was a one time deal. Nobody outright manufacturers them. -- 2005 GMC 1500HD 6.0L, 2006 Pontiac Grand Prix 
Atheism-The belief that there was nothing and nothing hapened to nothing and then nothing magically exploded for no reason, creating everything and then a bunch of everything magically rearranged itself for no reason what so ever into self-replication bits which then turned into dinosaurs...makes perfect sense. Posted By: Storn On: 01-24-2009 @ 23:16:11 Reply | Top | Edit actually from what i hear now, since they got enough people to make the first batch that they are now being manufactured...just what ive heard. --
2001 V6 5speed Posi 3.73's, Pacesetter Headers, Magnaflow High Flow Cat & Cat-Back, Cut-Out, Whisper Lid, Home Made EGR Delete, B&M Short Throw W/T-Handle, 180* Thermostat, 2-10in kicker comp vr's running off a momoblock, 4 infinity reference 6012's off a 4channel jbl... Posted By: crunkmaro On: 01-25-2009 @ 04:55:36 Reply | Top | Edit still waiting for them to compare them head to head with the cia headers. Posted By: ObsidianSixer On: 01-25-2009 @ 19:50:37 Reply | Top | Edit for the price, i'd spend the left over on something better -- 1997 T-70 Turbo V6 Camaro 1998 Firebird V6 Posted By: Ramwhad On: 02-01-2009 @ 11:23:16 Reply | Top | Edit There is a guy that has a flowmaster muffler and k&n air intake for a 3.4 v6 he says that they will fit my 3.8l v6 is that possible. Posted By: ObsidianSixer On: 02-01-2009 @ 18:27:47 Reply | Top | Edit You can put the muffler on anything, but the intake wont fit, you can probably make it fit, but it will look ghey. Just buy the lid from crunk and buy a catback from ebay. -- 1997 T-70 Turbo V6 Camaro 1998 Firebird V6 Posted By: Howi152 On: 02-01-2009 @ 22:02:48 Reply | Top | Edit ^ Yup... --
Posted By: Ramwhad On: 02-01-2009 @ 22:32:18 Reply | Top | Edit well the muffler is pretty cheap and I want to buy the lid from crunk but he hasn't gotten back to me. And whats a catback? Posted By: Storn On: 02-01-2009 @ 23:26:22 Reply | Top | Edit a catback is the section of exhaust pipe from right behind the catalytic converter to the exhaust tips. if you're looking for a performance gain the muffler alone wont do much, if anything, the catback would make a little more of a difference due to the fact that they are a larger pipe diameter than stock and the bends in the pipe are mandrel, therefor not having any creases. --
2001 V6 5speed Posi 3.73's, Pacesetter Headers, Magnaflow High Flow Cat & Cat-Back, Cut-Out, Whisper Lid, Home Made EGR Delete, B&M Short Throw W/T-Handle, 180* Thermostat, 2-10in kicker comp vr's running off a momoblock, 4 infinity reference 6012's off a 4channel jbl... Posted By: ObsidianSixer On: 02-02-2009 @ 15:09:34 Reply | Top | Edit If you're going to modify your car at all, do it right. Half assing is for the ghey. -- 1997 T-70 Turbo V6 Camaro 1998 Firebird V6 Posted By: Howi152 On: 02-05-2009 @ 03:29:03 Reply | Top | Edit ^ i half stepped on some of my parts (ex pacesetter headers) and i have to say i agree save a little more and do the shit right the first time or else some poor high school kid will have to show you up later!! --
Posted By: Ramwhad On: 02-08-2009 @ 19:51:16 Reply | Top | Edit is a whisper lid better then a cold air intake? because I have a guy that can sell me a k&n cold air intake for like 35. Also I know a lady that has front and back tinted light covers. Are these legal and what is a good price for them. She wants 50 for the front and back covers. Posted By: ObsidianSixer On: 02-08-2009 @ 21:09:29 Reply | Top | Edit Meh, depends on which CAI, but it wont really matter if it is made for the car, just get the freaking whisper lid damnit! covers? BOOO.... 
7ish bucks, WOOO! You can make the tint any shade you want. -- 1997 T-70 Turbo V6 Camaro 1998 Firebird V6 Posted By: Ramwhad On: 02-08-2009 @ 21:18:25 Reply | Top | Edit is that stuff legal though? and how does it come off? I'd by the whisper lid but don't have the cash right now. Thats why I wanted to know if a cai was better and if I should get it Posted By: ObsidianSixer On: 02-08-2009 @ 21:24:51 Reply | Top | Edit yesh its legal. show a pic fo this CAI you speak of... -- 1997 T-70 Turbo V6 Camaro 1998 Firebird V6 Posted By: Ramwhad On: 02-08-2009 @ 21:35:20 Reply | Top | Edit the guy hasn't sent me a pic yet I'm waiting for it. And also you have a turbo v6 camaro, how? I have a friend that wants me to try and supercharge my camaro from another 3800II car. Posted By: ObsidianSixer On: 02-08-2009 @ 21:51:17 Reply | Top | Edit ^WRONG. My Caps Lock Button says an L67 M90 supercharger will not fit. (will with HEAVY fabrication, not worth the time and money.) EDIT: Actuallly.... You said from another 3800seriesII, not series III.... Tell me more... But most likely it is a III and he is speaking of the M90 which wont fit. EDIT2: Wait a sec, you are looking into S/C your car when you can't even put bolt ons on it? hmm -- 1997 T-70 Turbo V6 Camaro 1998 Firebird V6 [ Edited on 02/08/2009 @ 21:54:23 ] Posted By: Ramwhad On: 02-08-2009 @ 21:55:21 Reply | Top | Edit alrighty seeing as though how i have no real idea what that is i'm gonna have to take your word on it haha. Posted By: ObsidianSixer On: 02-08-2009 @ 22:02:41 Reply | Top | Edit The M90 supercharger came on fwd 3800 engines but the m90 is too tall to sit on your engine. -- 1997 T-70 Turbo V6 Camaro 1998 Firebird V6 Posted By: Ramwhad On: 02-08-2009 @ 22:06:12 Reply | Top | Edit so, like what does that mean? Are you saying if I got like a different hood or something its possible? Posted By: ObsidianSixer On: 02-08-2009 @ 22:51:31 Reply | Top | Edit no, look at the engien of your car, it goes up under the cowl. You would have to cut the friggin windshield. -- 1997 T-70 Turbo V6 Camaro 1998 Firebird V6 Posted By: Ramwhad On: 02-08-2009 @ 22:52:44 Reply | Top | Edit haha oh thats what you mean, ok I get it Posted By: Howi152 On: 02-08-2009 @ 23:16:40 Reply | Top | Edit If your serious abut forced induction, don't waste time & $ on part that will be useless to u later. -- Loyalty above all, except Honor!! Posted By: Ramwhad On: 02-08-2009 @ 23:18:37 Reply | Top | Edit cai Posted By: Ramwhad On: 02-08-2009 @ 23:19:44 Reply | Top | Edit how do i put a picture on here? I want to show the pics of the cai [ Edited on 02/08/2009 @ 23:20:12 ] Posted By: ObsidianSixer On: 02-08-2009 @ 23:23:30 Reply | Top | Edit post the url on here (ex. http://en.wikipedia.org) and just replace the "http" with "img" -- 1997 T-70 Turbo V6 Camaro 1998 Firebird V6 Posted By: Howi152 On: 02-09-2009 @ 02:24:05 Reply | Top | Edit  , but if you need more detailed instructions, please reefer to http://www.fbody.com/v6/110457 -- Loyalty above all, except Honor!! Posted By: Ramwhad On: 02-19-2009 @ 20:10:13 Reply | Top | Edit Here is a link to some pictures of the stuff I found. -cold air intake for $20 including shipping -magnaflow exhaust for $175 before shipping and I'm not sure if I need anything else or if I can just install it on my already existing exhaust. Thats where everybodys feedback helps me out. -Then there is a 1969 pontiac lemans with a 455 in it that a guy wants to trade me for my car -also there is a 1969 firebird with a 400 that I kind of am interested in trading for -and there are some pics of my car http://s572.photobucket.com/albums/ss167/Ramwhad/ Posted By: GOATS2QUICK On: 02-19-2009 @ 23:32:04 Reply | Top | Edit ramwhads shizel 
i gotz a 69 pontiac lemans, convert. -- gta 350 tpi 
 Posted By: ObsidianSixer On: 02-20-2009 @ 04:33:29 Reply | Top | Edit Not a fan of that lip. -- 1997 T-70 Turbo V6 Camaro 1998 Firebird V6 Posted By: Ramwhad On: 02-22-2009 @ 12:49:05 Reply | Top | Edit so is the cold air intake a good one and should I get the exaust for $150? Posted By: Ramwhad On: 02-22-2009 @ 12:56:38 Reply | Top | Edit hey,I just found this on youtube. I was told this would be impossible to do for my 97 3800II but this guy supercharged his. So would it be possible to supercharge it with supercharger from another 3800II engine? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uK5pYVBcZ2I Posted By: Ramwhad On: 02-24-2009 @ 16:33:43 Reply | Top | Edit I found these rims for $60. Should I put them on my car? http://s572.photobucket.com/albums/ss167/Ramwhad/?action=view¤t=redwheel.jpg http://s572.photobucket.com/albums/ss167/Ramwhad/?action=view¤t=redwheels.jpg http://s572.photobucket.com/albums/ss167/Ramwhad/?action=view¤t=IMG_0648.jpg http://s572.photobucket.com/albums/ss167/Ramwhad/?action=view¤t=red.png Posted By: GOATS2QUICK On: 02-24-2009 @ 21:03:44 Reply | Top | Edit no! -- gta 350 tpi
Posted By: Ramwhad On: 02-24-2009 @ 21:13:15 Reply | Top | Edit can i get some feedback about my other questions ignoring the one about the rims Posted By: ObsidianSixer On: 02-24-2009 @ 23:43:04 Reply | Top | Edit BAHAHAHAHAHA. He found my car! The first link you found of the supercharged car, is the car in my sig, haha. The one in the video was wrecked, everything from the car in the video was transferred to the car in my sig. engine/wheels/trans/rear/interior/basicly everything that can be transferred. The setup on the car in the video is wayyyy more $$ than you want to spend. Its a powerdyne supercharger. Its rare and how much money are you wanting to put into this car... I mean jesus... looking into superchargers n shit... Who the hell said it's impossible to s/c our cars.... lawlz... -- 1997 T-70 Turbo V6 Camaro 1998 Firebird V6 [ Edited on 02/24/2009 @ 23:43:52 ] Posted By: crunkmaro On: 02-25-2009 @ 00:16:18 Reply | Top | Edit ^idk what he said. but i think he said "my little sister wants crunk" Posted By: ObsidianSixer On: 02-25-2009 @ 01:20:57 Reply | Top | Edit My sister hates you, every time you try to text her she yells at me for giving you her number. and she NEVER texts you back. She also said you are scary looking. Owned. -- 1997 T-70 Turbo V6 Camaro 1998 Firebird V6 Posted By: Ramwhad On: 03-03-2009 @ 23:59:50 Reply | Top | Edit so what would be better putting the cold air intake on my car from the previous picture or getting a brand new K&N air filter? Posted By: Howi152 On: 03-04-2009 @ 00:23:33 Reply | Top | Edit cai, just do it!! -- Loyalty above all, except Honor!! Posted By: crunkmaro On: 03-05-2009 @ 12:05:10 Reply | Top | Edit   very good. my job is done.
*deletes lauren's number* Posted By: ObsidianSixer On: 03-05-2009 @ 12:37:36 Reply | Top | Edit I love you. -- 1997 T-70 Turbo V6 Camaro 1998 Firebird V6
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