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Hmmm Posted By: ObsidianSixer On: 03-04-2010 @ 22:19:56 Reply | Edit This post is more for conversational purposes. I want to put a camshaft and some heads into my firebird. Is intense-racing or comp camshafts better? what shoudl i put in it along with them, liek valve springs in such, the little things. Some ideas would be greatly appreciated, I'm still new to this stuff so pleaseeee inform me, thanks : ) -- 
1998 V6 Firebird Offroad Modded 4X4 Suburban Posted By: ObsidianSixer On: 02-16-2008 @ 23:52:27 Reply | Top | Edit And by the way, what do you guys think about my new sub and amp setup?  -- 1998 V6 Firebird Offroad Modded 4X4 Suburban [ Edited on 02/16/2008 @ 23:52:44 ] Posted By: cypher_2001 On: 02-16-2008 @ 23:53:44 Reply | Top | Edit Post up what gains you are looking for, streetablity, which cams you are looking at, etc. I would recommend the Abbott racing heads if you are really wanting to drop some bones. -- 
Mods:|K&N|Smooth Bellows|Free Ram Air|160 Thermo|Accell 8mm|Bosch 4+|B&M Shifter|PARacing Kmember|Spec Stage 2|PCMforless tune|Full Exhaust|Aluminum DS|Spohn LCA's|3.73's|Auburn Posi| |Z-28 Rack & Pinion| Best E/T- 2.02 60' 14.7 1/4 @ 92mph on Street Tires. Posted By: ObsidianSixer On: 02-17-2008 @ 00:40:14 Reply | Top | Edit Well, since I am living in my parents basement, and as long as i keep above a 3.0 gpa in college, im set, and i only have to pay insurance for my car. Now that I have told you this useless info.. What would be awesome for about 3 grand and what kind of hp gains can expect. Before this I am getting 4.10s, full exhaust, intake , pcmforless, and not sure what size stall to get yet.. I live in VA so nothing street illegal, as crunkmaro keeps urging me to get nitrous.. : ) Umm streetability.. not sure how to answer that, but i want it to be street legal? 300 hp is ideal.. i realize thats not quite ideal.. whats the difference between stage 1-3 heads, what should a novice liek me get? can i just start out with stage 3? Okydoky, i think that might help? sorry if it doesnt, thanks : ) edit: Oh yeah, I would prefer not to take my engine out.. So i might not be able to do heads and camshaft? but what could i do? But if i have to take my engine out for stuff, i can. Just prefer not to.. -- 1998 V6 Firebird Offroad Modded 4X4 Suburban [ Edited on 02/17/2008 @ 01:04:53 ] Posted By: Jeremiah On: 02-17-2008 @ 01:04:24 Reply | Top | Edit For $3k (or a little more), I'd go the FI route. You won't hit 300hp n/a...it hasnt been done yet. People are close, but their cars are not daily drivers by any means. -- **FOR SALE** 2005 GMC 1500HD 6.0L, dumped true duals - Flowmaster 50 series - 16.43@85.29 2006 Pontiac Grand Prix - 3.8L - not for sale 
"if there was a way to internet punch u i would" - SilverRS96 on AIM(Misfits503) Posted By: ObsidianSixer On: 02-17-2008 @ 01:08:51 Reply | Top | Edit Turbo? if I was to get a turbo wouldn't I prolly get heads and stuff anyway? Plus my engine has 140k on it, should i look into a engine replacement before all this? --
1998 V6 Firebird Offroad Modded 4X4 Suburban Posted By: ObsidianSixer On: 02-17-2008 @ 05:01:44 Reply | Top | Edit i went to ebay and my mind drifted away at another idea again.. I have 2 ways to go.. 1) FI my V6 2) swap for an LS1 I went on ebay and I found a bunch of corvette LS1s, I fell in love. So how difficult is it to swap a corvette ls1 with a 3800? My moms co-worker said that if i ever did a swap he would LOVE to do it with me. But how difficult would it be? --
1998 V6 Firebird Offroad Modded 4X4 Suburban Posted By: ObsidianSixer On: 02-17-2008 @ 05:04:15 Reply | Top | Edit Oh, and I figure the corvette ls1 swap will give me all the hp I will ever want : ) --
1998 V6 Firebird Offroad Modded 4X4 Suburban Posted By: Storn On: 02-17-2008 @ 09:46:21 Reply | Top | Edit imo it would be thousands of times easier just to get a 3.8 shortblock or longblock with low miles from a wrecked car, use that as your new engine, and turbo it, and while its out do some head work and possibly a cam... either way, i woulnt do any mods like you are talking with 140k on the original engine. a used 3.8 600 bucks used turbo setup 1800 that leaves you 600 for cam and valve springs, retainers, little piddly shit. and you're spent, need another grand for head work. thats just what im assuming from what ive read. --  
2001 V6 5speed 180* thermostat, whisper lid, magnaflow high flow cat and cat-back, 2 kicker comp vrs, 4 infinity reference 6012's with amps for each... Posted By: Jeremiah On: 02-17-2008 @ 10:41:08 Reply | Top | Edit Kevin's car held up to boost for a long time with high miles. 300hp wont be cheap on this car. A swap tends to be more hassle than its worth and will only be cost effective if you do everything yourself and can find a good deal on an LS1. -- **FOR SALE** 2005 GMC 1500HD 6.0L, dumped true duals - Flowmaster 50 series - 16.43@85.29 2006 Pontiac Grand Prix - 3.8L - not for sale
"if there was a way to internet punch u i would" - SilverRS96 on AIM(Misfits503) Posted By: ObsidianSixer On: 02-17-2008 @ 15:10:59 Reply | Top | Edit I would do everything by myself, well with people who do this kind of thing, I can drive my truck for the time being. But is it really that difficult to do a swap? for a 345hp corvette ls1.. I really really want it... lol --
1998 V6 Firebird Offroad Modded 4X4 Suburban Posted By: Storn On: 02-17-2008 @ 18:55:04 Reply | Top | Edit cam, long tube headers, 3200 stall, 3.73 gears, and a little courage from the bottle and i bet you can hit over 300rwhp...add in some sticky tires and you could have one quick sixer... does anyone care to give him the run down on what he needs to do the v8 swap, i dont feel like it, nor do i remember everything, i know i originally thought about it, till i heard others ask... --
2001 V6 5speed 180* thermostat, whisper lid, magnaflow high flow cat and cat-back, 2 kicker comp vrs, 4 infinity reference 6012's with amps for each... Posted By: ObsidianSixer On: 02-18-2008 @ 00:55:49 Reply | Top | Edit do I have to like lift the car up and put the engine into it from under the car? --
1998 V6 Firebird Offroad Modded 4X4 Suburban Posted By: 3pt4_N00b On: 02-18-2008 @ 13:00:46 Reply | Top | Edit ^ either way - if you go through the top you have to take the top of the engine off Posted By: ObsidianSixer On: 02-18-2008 @ 17:58:41 Reply | Top | Edit wheres a good place to read up on this stuff, anybody know? so i dont have to keep asking.. --  [ Edited on 02/18/2008 @ 18:05:20 ] Posted By: Jeremiah On: 02-19-2008 @ 12:14:14 Reply | Top | Edit Storm, gears dont add hp btw 
Ricky, what do you want to know? -- **FOR SALE** 2005 GMC 1500HD 6.0L, dumped true duals - Flowmaster 50 series - 16.43@85.29 2006 Pontiac Grand Prix - 3.8L - not for sale
"if there was a way to internet punch u i would" - SilverRS96 on AIM(Misfits503) Posted By: ObsidianSixer On: 02-19-2008 @ 13:01:55 Reply | Top | Edit I wanna know why it would eb so hard to transplant the V8 into my car. I have to sides to the issue, i have people telling me to do it, and that its a good decision and then theres people telling me its not worth the time. -- 
1998-Firebird Posted By: Fury_786 On: 02-19-2008 @ 20:21:33 Reply | Top | Edit ls1. My Caps Lock Button Is Broken -- 
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 2001 SS...mods in progress...Posted By: Storn On: 02-19-2008 @ 20:24:45 Reply | Top | Edit Jeremiah, i know they dont add hp, they're just crucial to being faster, and its dumb to do all those other mods without gears...i shoulda put that in to start with... well, from what i know you have to first have the engine (simple enough) since you have an auto i think that makes it easier, since its the same trans for the 6 and the 8, you'll need a wiring harness, a v8 gauge cluster, a new PCM, might as well go with headers while you've got everything apart, front cross member possibly dont quote me on that but im thinking due to engine mounts you'd have to, i dont know everything you need, that is just barely scratching the surface, you'll have various hoses and vacuum lines and such too that you'll probably need... also i dont think you'll be able to put a v8 in there from the top, so a hoist will be needed, one it can sit on for a while, because you'll likely run into things you forgot about or didnt know about... -- 2001 V6 5speed 180* thermostat, whisper lid, magnaflow high flow cat and cat-back, 2 kicker comp vrs, 4 infinity reference 6012's with amps for each... [ Edited on 02/19/2008 @ 20:28:15 ] Posted By: goldenphoenix On: 02-19-2008 @ 21:02:57 Reply | Top | Edit It is indeed the same transmission however you will quickly find out that the bellhousing bolts will not line up.....therefore you will need a V8 transmission.  -- Why in the world would I ever want to downgrade to a V8?  Posted By: Storn On: 02-19-2008 @ 22:50:23 Reply | Top | Edit and v8 crossmember as well im assuming, i thought i heard that somewhere before... --
2001 V6 5speed 180* thermostat, whisper lid, magnaflow high flow cat and cat-back, 2 kicker comp vrs, 4 infinity reference 6012's with amps for each... Posted By: ObsidianSixer On: 02-19-2008 @ 23:31:52 Reply | Top | Edit So I do have to put it in from the bottom?.. Grrrrreat. How the heck do I do this from my garage.. Or can it not be done? --
1998-Firebird Posted By: goldenphoenix On: 02-20-2008 @ 12:42:30 Reply | Top | Edit You do know that you could always break down the LS1 engine, put the block into place, then reinstall the heads and other components. -- Why in the world would I ever want to downgrade to a V8? Posted By: Jeremiah On: 02-20-2008 @ 14:11:46 Reply | Top | Edit You can drop the bottom in the garage with no problem. Just need a couple of jack stands. -- **FOR SALE** 2005 GMC 1500HD 6.0L, dumped true duals - Flowmaster 50 series - 16.43@85.29 2006 Pontiac Grand Prix - 3.8L - not for sale
"if there was a way to internet punch u i would" - SilverRS96 on AIM(Misfits503) Posted By: ObsidianSixer On: 02-20-2008 @ 18:24:41 Reply | Top | Edit drop the trans and engine out?! those would have to be some gargantuan jack stands wouldn't they? --
1998-Firebird Posted By: 94RedFormula On: 02-20-2008 @ 18:44:57 Reply | Top | Edit ^ When's your birthday, Ricky? --  94 Formula M6 - Jackie - I'm the bomb diggity! ...Crunkmaro said so! 
!CAGS, Hooker Catback, Lingenfelter CAI, Trick Flow intake elbow & 20% tint!!  Posted By: ObsidianSixer On: 02-20-2008 @ 19:47:44 Reply | Top | Edit Dec. 31, 1988 : ) thankssssss Jackie --
1998-Firebird Posted By: Storn On: 02-20-2008 @ 22:40:40 Reply | Top | Edit you can just go to harbor freight pick up their cheapest set of 6ton or so jack stands they'll get you in the air far enough, ive done my fair share of transmissions and such like that, and we were using an atv jack as a tranny jack due to the fact we couldnt afford a tranny jack and had that laying around, lol... --
2001 V6 5speed 180* thermostat, whisper lid, magnaflow high flow cat and cat-back, 2 kicker comp vrs, 4 infinity reference 6012's with amps for each... Posted By: ObsidianSixer On: 02-21-2008 @ 06:17:29 Reply | Top | Edit how high does it need to be to clear? and i am taking the l36 out of the hood right? and i am just dropping the tranny? --
1998-Firebird Posted By: 94RedFormula On: 02-21-2008 @ 12:48:10 Reply | Top | Edit You're welcome Ricky!  -- 94 Formula M6 - Jackie - I'm the bomb diggity! ...Crunkmaro said so!
!CAGS, Hooker Catback, Lingenfelter CAI, Trick Flow intake elbow & 20% tint!! Posted By: Storn On: 02-21-2008 @ 20:03:40 Reply | Top | Edit in my opinion it would be easiest to support the engine from the top (cherry picker) while you loosen everything underneath supporting the trans from below, pull the front crosmember because you need a v8 one anyway, so the whole front suspension will just be hanging there, and lower everything down as an assembly onto some sort of rolling fixture, unless all you have is some pallets or a tire, at that point the engine probably wont clear the bottom of the car, doubt you could get it that high, but having it all down below where it sits while it is in the car will make it much easier to get to all of the bolts that hold the engine and trans together, without bringing it down out of the floor i imagine it would be damn near impossible to get to the top bolts... there will be fluids and everything all over the place, idk if the radiators are the same either or if its just the hoses that you'll have to change... also it will be a huge PITA if you dont have an air compressor and some air tools... --
2001 V6 5speed 180* thermostat, whisper lid, magnaflow high flow cat and cat-back, 2 kicker comp vrs, 4 infinity reference 6012's with amps for each... Posted By: ObsidianSixer On: 02-21-2008 @ 20:52:37 Reply | Top | Edit got an air compressor with tools. how do you know so much about this? --
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