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Need New Engine Posted By: 99W68Firebird On: 03-12-2010 @ 16:14:51 Reply | Edit Well havent really diagnosed the problem basically im convinced my engine is fudged. And if I'm right, I'm gonna most likely need a new one, because cars paid of in 2 months of course, good timing, I think somehow ECUs are mapped into the car companies and right before they are paid off, they program them to kill your engine somehow  j/k
But anyways wondering if anyone knows where i could get a new engine, maybe a website or something, trust me no junk yard around me has these cars, I've looked before. And before any of you say "Dont waste your time, its just a 6 cylinder" Yea correct, it is, but my mechanic already said he'd install the new engine for $400. So yea, spending the extra money for a new engine on a car thats almost paid off, is a lot better than junkin it and getting nothing in return. -- 99' W68 Firebird - SLP Ram air kit, Whisper Air Lid, k&n, Air Temp Module, 180 degree thermo, 8mm Taylor Wires, 245/50R16 Bridgestone Potenza RE950, BMR Red Lower Control Arms, Pacesetter Headers,3" Magnaflow catalytic converter, and 2.75" Flowmaster catback Best 1/4 15.32@ 87.71, Best 1/8 9.761, Best 60' 2.162 http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/501008  Posted By: 3pt4_N00b On: 06-06-2007 @ 16:50:52 Reply | Top | Edit Whats wrong with it timmah? Anyway I got a 23k mile 02 3.8 for 700 from www.lkqcorp.com once you find the one you want call them on the phone and talk them down on their price - its negotiable. -- 2001 Turbo Camaro m5 - RIP 10/26/2006 1994 Trans Am A4 - Bolt ons & Built tranny 1994 Camaro m5 - 3.8 swap coming along with turbo kit  
Posted By: 99W68Firebird On: 06-06-2007 @ 17:43:47 Reply | Top | Edit Not exactly sure yet, Mechanic said maybe something with Bearings and crankshaft or something i have no idea, says somethings holding the engine from turning over, and saw metal shavings on my dipstick. -- 99' W68 Firebird - SLP Ram air kit, Whisper Air Lid, k&n, Air Temp Module, 180 degree thermo, 8mm Taylor Wires, 245/50R16 Bridgestone Potenza RE950, BMR Red Lower Control Arms, Pacesetter Headers,3" Magnaflow catalytic converter, and 2.75" Flowmaster catback Best 1/4 15.32@ 87.71, Best 1/8 9.761, Best 60' 2.162 http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/501008 Posted By: cypher_2001 On: 06-06-2007 @ 18:09:11 Reply | Top | Edit How many miles where on the engine? You also might want to check car-part.com for an engine. They usually have the local listings for a decent price. -- 
Mods:|K&N|Smooth Bellows|Free Ram Air|160 Thermo|Accell 8mm|Bosch 4+|B&M Shifter|PARacing Kmember|Spec Stage 2|PCMforless tune|Full Exhaust|Aluminum DS|Spohn LCA's|3.73's|Auburn Posi| |Z-28 Rack & Pinion| Best E/T- 2.02 60' 14.7 1/4 @ 92mph on Street Tires. Posted By: 99W68Firebird On: 06-06-2007 @ 18:20:46 Reply | Top | Edit 132k miles -- 99' W68 Firebird - SLP Ram air kit, Whisper Air Lid, k&n, Air Temp Module, 180 degree thermo, 8mm Taylor Wires, 245/50R16 Bridgestone Potenza RE950, BMR Red Lower Control Arms, Pacesetter Headers,3" Magnaflow catalytic converter, and 2.75" Flowmaster catback Best 1/4 15.32@ 87.71, Best 1/8 9.761, Best 60' 2.162 http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/501008 Posted By: 99W68Firebird On: 06-06-2007 @ 20:55:02 Reply | Top | Edit Got it to start up again. Took vid.. http://www.justinkady.com/WierdNoise.mpg -- 99' W68 Firebird - SLP Ram air kit, Whisper Air Lid, k&n, Air Temp Module, 180 degree thermo, 8mm Taylor Wires, 245/50R16 Bridgestone Potenza RE950, BMR Red Lower Control Arms, Pacesetter Headers,3" Magnaflow catalytic converter, and 2.75" Flowmaster catback Best 1/4 15.32@ 87.71, Best 1/8 9.761, Best 60' 2.162 http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/501008 Posted By: Storn On: 06-07-2007 @ 00:15:56 Reply | Top | Edit wow, the tensioner pulley is bouncing pretty bad... what is your oil pressure? -- 
2001 V6 5speed 180* thermostat, magnaflow high flow cat and cat-back... Posted By: 99W68Firebird On: 06-07-2007 @ 01:00:01 Reply | Top | Edit low, well whole Tensioner was just replaced not even a month ago lol. And the old one wasnt even makin a noise like that and the belt was half way off. -- 99' W68 Firebird - SLP Ram air kit, Whisper Air Lid, k&n, Air Temp Module, 180 degree thermo, 8mm Taylor Wires, 245/50R16 Bridgestone Potenza RE950, BMR Red Lower Control Arms, Pacesetter Headers,3" Magnaflow catalytic converter, and 2.75" Flowmaster catback Best 1/4 15.32@ 87.71, Best 1/8 9.761, Best 60' 2.162 http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/501008 Posted By: squisher On: 06-07-2007 @ 13:15:20 Reply | Top | Edit Something else running on the belt must have some hella drag on it, like the water pump not wanting to turn, or the alternator or the A/C compressor. That or the tensioner pulley bearing itself. The noise sounds pretty bad, but it doesn't really sound like it's knocking which is a good thing. Obviously that's just from hearing it on a video which is definitely not the same as being there. Pull the belt and see if you can reproduce part of the noise by turning the accessories by hand. Obviously if something has a lot of resistance, then that might be part of why the tensioner is bouncing. Metal shavings on the dipstick however are never a good thing, although you might not need an entire new engine if you just cooked a couple of crankshaft bearings. You can replace those, and even resurface the races in the crankshaft if they're not too torn up. drop the motor, then drop the oilpan and inspect everything in there. If the crank is really bad, buy a stroker kit
While you've got the engine out, it might be worthwhile to pull at least the valve covers if not the heads to check for problems there, but your mechanic should know to do most of this (unless there is something obvious like a cracked block or something). A lot of that might remain cheaper than buying a new engine, but it is hard to argue the $400 install fee. That sounds very reasonable. Posted By: 99W68Firebird On: 06-07-2007 @ 16:16:17 Reply | Top | Edit yea, well crap theres http://car-part.com/ and has some 3.8Ls on there with less than 50,000 miles for around $700 so $1100 for an engine with 100,000 miles less isnt too bad of an investment. Just need same year right? If i get a different year might not work? I know 98' wont cuz of different throttle body but im talkin electronics and mounts. -- 99' W68 Firebird - SLP Ram air kit, Whisper Air Lid, k&n, Air Temp Module, 180 degree thermo, 8mm Taylor Wires, 245/50R16 Bridgestone Potenza RE950, BMR Red Lower Control Arms, Pacesetter Headers,3" Magnaflow catalytic converter, and 2.75" Flowmaster catback Best 1/4 15.32@ 87.71, Best 1/8 9.761, Best 60' 2.162 http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/501008 Posted By: Storn On: 06-08-2007 @ 16:51:46 Reply | Top | Edit maybe the ac compressor is locking up... if the car just died the one time, or wouldnt start, it could of been because the compressor seized up and created too much drag... idk, like squisher said, the metal cant be a good sign, so if you have another mode of transportation, i would start taking things appart and see if you can find out what is causing the metal shavings... if you had the cash, and the engine did need work, now would be an oppourtunistic time to build it, again, we dont have any stroker guys here in the v6 forum i believe, that would be something different, definately not cheap, but different... if you just get a different engine you could more likely than not just swap the throttle body, the rest should pretty much be the same, and what isnt, you can just pull from the existing engine and swap over, as long as its 98+ i believe... --
2001 V6 5speed 180* thermostat, magnaflow high flow cat and cat-back... Posted By: 3pt4_N00b On: 06-08-2007 @ 17:10:55 Reply | Top | Edit  that happened on my lt1 and scared the shit out of me... then it broke the starter and the belt off and I knew what it was lol. -- 2001 Turbo Camaro m5 - RIP 10/26/2006 1994 Trans Am A4 - Bolt ons & Built tranny 1994 Camaro m5 - 3.8 swap coming along with turbo kit
Posted By: cypher_2001 On: 06-08-2007 @ 17:38:31 Reply | Top | Edit Does your car have the angled TB? Either way you could buy an engine, and just use your upper intake manifold off of your old motor. Also, is your TB cable operated or Drive by wire? I don't think they switched to drive by wire until 2000, but I could be wrong. --
Mods:|K&N|Smooth Bellows|Free Ram Air|160 Thermo|Accell 8mm|Bosch 4+|B&M Shifter|PARacing Kmember|Spec Stage 2|PCMforless tune|Full Exhaust|Aluminum DS|Spohn LCA's|3.73's|Auburn Posi| |Z-28 Rack & Pinion| Best E/T- 2.02 60' 14.7 1/4 @ 92mph on Street Tires. Posted By: 99W68Firebird On: 06-08-2007 @ 23:14:41 Reply | Top | Edit mines not angled. i dunno.. so many possibilities. -- 99' W68 Firebird - SLP Ram air kit, Whisper Air Lid, k&n, Air Temp Module, 180 degree thermo, 8mm Taylor Wires, 245/50R16 Bridgestone Potenza RE950, BMR Red Lower Control Arms, Pacesetter Headers,3" Magnaflow catalytic converter, and 2.75" Flowmaster catback Best 1/4 15.32@ 87.71, Best 1/8 9.761, Best 60' 2.162 http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/501008 Posted By: Jeremiah On: 06-08-2007 @ 23:37:44 Reply | Top | Edit 95-98 was angled 99-02 was straight -- **FOR SALE** 2005 GMC 1500HD 6.0L, dumped true duals - Flowmaster 50 series - 16.43@85.29 2006 Pontiac Grand Prix - L36 - bone stock 
"I say durka durka fuk fuk... ...fo shizzle!" --Jackie(94RedFormula) Posted By: 99W68Firebird On: 06-09-2007 @ 01:42:50 Reply | Top | Edit yea i got 99. -- 99' W68 Firebird - SLP Ram air kit, Whisper Air Lid, k&n, Air Temp Module, 180 degree thermo, 8mm Taylor Wires, 245/50R16 Bridgestone Potenza RE950, BMR Red Lower Control Arms, Pacesetter Headers,3" Magnaflow catalytic converter, and 2.75" Flowmaster catback Best 1/4 15.32@ 87.71, Best 1/8 9.761, Best 60' 2.162 http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/501008 Posted By: 97rs4life On: 06-09-2007 @ 18:58:18 Reply | Top | Edit you got exactly 7 days to get it fixed before the mifbody meet and greet next Saturday -- 1997 Camaro RS 30th Anniversary-Full boltons, nitrous, etc. 
http://www.gvperformance.com Posted By: 99W68Firebird On: 06-10-2007 @ 18:56:30 Reply | Top | Edit crap.. lol.. The meet and Greet is too far.. well unless i get a new engine by then, than im sure i can make it haha -- 99' W68 Firebird - SLP Ram air kit, Whisper Air Lid, k&n, Air Temp Module, 180 degree thermo, 8mm Taylor Wires, 245/50R16 Bridgestone Potenza RE950, BMR Red Lower Control Arms, Pacesetter Headers,3" Magnaflow catalytic converter, and 2.75" Flowmaster catback Best 1/4 15.32@ 87.71, Best 1/8 9.761, Best 60' 2.162 http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/501008 Posted By: 99W68Firebird On: 06-11-2007 @ 14:48:29 Reply | Top | Edit Took belt off.. Got another vid... should rule out a lot of assumptions. www.justinkady.com/WierdNoise2.mpg -- 99' W68 Firebird - SLP Ram air kit, Whisper Air Lid, k&n, Air Temp Module, 180 degree thermo, 8mm Taylor Wires, 245/50R16 Bridgestone Potenza RE950, BMR Red Lower Control Arms, Pacesetter Headers,3" Magnaflow catalytic converter, and 2.75" Flowmaster catback Best 1/4 15.32@ 87.71, Best 1/8 9.761, Best 60' 2.162 http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/501008 Posted By: Storn On: 06-11-2007 @ 20:19:49 Reply | Top | Edit wow, yeah, the engine is fcked...the only other time i've heard a sound like that is from a 3.9 dakota, you couldnt hear it at idle, but when you brought the rpms off idle it sounded like that, and it was a rod knocking... --
2001 V6 5speed 180* thermostat, magnaflow high flow cat and cat-back... Posted By: squisher On: 06-12-2007 @ 15:53:26 Reply | Top | Edit Bottom end sounds pretty well boned. At least one connecting rod bearing is toasted judging by that sound. If the main crankshaft bearing surfaces (in the block) aren't pooched up beyond anything, you could still fix that with a new crank/conrods/wrist pins/pistons (maybe on the pistons, depends on what else is broken). Stroke it dood!
Of course if anything else is pooched you're just as well off getting a new(er) longblock from elsewhere. Posted By: Storn On: 06-12-2007 @ 16:55:15 Reply | Top | Edit if it salvagable(sp) you could take the cash you were gonna put into a whole new block, and put it into just a new rotating assembly, high strengh connecting rods and high compression pistons...bring it up around 10.5 or so... --
2001 V6 5speed 180* thermostat, magnaflow high flow cat and cat-back... Posted By: 99W68Firebird On: 06-13-2007 @ 15:30:02 Reply | Top | Edit Yea i could do all that but then thats doing work to a motor thats still got 135k miles on it.. Vs. Dropping in a motor with less than 40,000. -- 99' W68 Firebird - SLP Ram air kit, Whisper Air Lid, k&n, Air Temp Module, 180 degree thermo, 8mm Taylor Wires, 245/50R16 Bridgestone Potenza RE950, BMR Red Lower Control Arms, Pacesetter Headers,3" Magnaflow catalytic converter, and 2.75" Flowmaster catback Best 1/4 15.32@ 87.71, Best 1/8 9.761, Best 60' 2.162 http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/501008 Posted By: Fury_786 On: 06-13-2007 @ 16:49:48 Reply | Top | Edit just stroke it. 4.1L! -- 
2002 Camaro M5, [Whisper Lid] [K&N] [Flowmaster] [Exedy Clutch Kit] [B&M Shifter] [BMR Strut Tower Brace] [PCMforLess tune] [100 shot EFI wet kit] [Pacesetter headers] [SLP Line Locks] [Lakewood LCA's] [Poly Trans Mount] [180* Thermo] [No Cat] [Accel Wires][Electric Cutout] [Springtech 1.75" drop] [free air mods] [Optima Red Top (in trunk)] [275-40 Sumitomos]  Posted By: 99W68Firebird On: 06-14-2007 @ 12:18:31 Reply | Top | Edit how much would that cost -- 99' W68 Firebird - SLP Ram air kit, Whisper Air Lid, k&n, Air Temp Module, 180 degree thermo, 8mm Taylor Wires, 245/50R16 Bridgestone Potenza RE950, BMR Red Lower Control Arms, Pacesetter Headers,3" Magnaflow catalytic converter, and 2.75" Flowmaster catback Best 1/4 15.32@ 87.71, Best 1/8 9.761, Best 60' 2.162 http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/501008 Posted By: 99W68Firebird On: 06-14-2007 @ 12:53:16 Reply | Top | Edit Well think my dad found a deal hes not gonna pass up. eh 65,000 miles not what i was expecting but then again i got 5 years out of my car when i bought it with 62,000 miles. But anyways, $700, 41 miles away from me, they will ship the engine for free to my mechanic's house, includes 30 day warrenty, and if i wanted pay a lil extra for a 6 month or year warrenty. And like i said before $400 for my mechanic to swap the engine. -- 99' W68 Firebird - SLP Ram air kit, Whisper Air Lid, k&n, Air Temp Module, 180 degree thermo, 8mm Taylor Wires, 245/50R16 Bridgestone Potenza RE950, BMR Red Lower Control Arms, Pacesetter Headers,3" Magnaflow catalytic converter, and 2.75" Flowmaster catback Best 1/4 15.32@ 87.71, Best 1/8 9.761, Best 60' 2.162 http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/501008 Posted By: Storn On: 06-14-2007 @ 16:50:40 Reply | Top | Edit from what ive read stoking it to a 4.1L costs like 1500 in parts alone...but i could be mistaken... and for just 1100, having a whole different engine and have it put in, well, that is hard to pass up... you could always keep you fooked block and build it up for when this next one goes... --
2001 V6 5speed 180* thermostat, magnaflow high flow cat and cat-back...
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