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'01 Trans Am WS6 Mod Suggestions

Posted By: Xzael On: 01-04-2008 @ 12:34:49         Reply | Edit
Hey guys,

I have a pretty much stock '01 Trans Am WS6, and I'm looking for a list of cheep to expensive things to boost the horse/performance of my car. Maybe also in terms of horse for your money (i.e. a new exhaust would probably be around $800, but would only add 5-10 horse, where as something else would give more horse for the $).

Also, I'm looking for rim options as well. I kind of took a corner too fast (on a wet road too) for the purpose of drifting the back end out. Well it didn't stop turning at parallel to the road, and the back end kept sliding until it was facing the opposite way of the road, and hit the median, taking a nasty chunk out of the rear passenger side rim (hey at least I'm honest, I'm sure a lot of people have had accidents messing around with their car).

So I at least want to get new rear rims / tires. How would a staggered setup look (18's in back, 17's in front)? I'd probably leave the stock rims in front and just get new ones (same style) for the back with a bad-ass set of tires).

My budget is about $2000 - $2500.

Also, what kind of cheep things can i do to mod the look of the car? I know i can change the dash lights for cheep, but I don't really know how to do it. And the mods this guy did here: http://www.paveglio.com/firebird/2001tamods.html are pretty bad ass.

Well, any suggestions?

Thanks in Advance. Casey

Posted By: Greenbird On: 01-29-2007 @ 23:41:56     Reply | Top | Edit
Exhaust is actually a good place to start. Most performance mods are building blocks. The more you do, the better the last one will perform. Think of your engine as an air pump. If you can get air in, you have to get it out. So if you get it in more effieciently (i.e. Cold air intake) then you have to get it out (i.e. catback exhaust/headers). That said, a lid, filter and catback is the best place to start. Do a search on catback exhausts, there are a ton of posts about it. Also check out http://www.ls1sounds.com that will help.

In regards to rims, you cant get stock ws6 wheels in 18". Sorry, 17" only. But you can pick up a set of OEM rims on Ebay for a pretty good price.
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'02 M6 WS6


Posted By: Xzael On: 01-30-2007 @ 07:14:20     Reply | Top | Edit
Thanks for the reply Greenbird. Yeah, I was just thinking of getting 18" OEM rims that look really similar to the stock ones. What brand of rims are good? I know there is so much crap out there on the Internet now, I don't want to be caught buying some cheepo rims because they "look nice".

Posted By: BlackScreaminMachine On: 01-30-2007 @ 07:41:16     Reply | Top | Edit
Lid, Headers with catted (highflow) y pipe, Magnaflow catback.
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2002 Navy Blue Metallic Trans-Am, 6 Speed, Leather, T-tops. SLP Flow Pack, M/T Street Radials, Free Mods, otherwise stock. Moser 12-bolt and BMR Suspension soon to be installed.

"Miles Per Hour is not a distance that you can race"-Ronald Bastura

Posted By: ryanfx On: 02-03-2007 @ 11:31:04     Reply | Top | Edit
I personally love the 02 WS6 rims. GM hit them on the money =p (I have an 01 WS6 as well)




I would definately get:

air lid / headers / y pipe / catback. That will bring up your HP to about 330+ to the wheels.


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Posted By: Xzael On: 02-03-2007 @ 19:43:49     Reply | Top | Edit
Why a Y pipe as opposed to an X pipe? I've noticed the thing with authentic GM rims though is that they cost a TON. They're like $800 a piece, whereas I can get a replica for much cheaper.

Also kinda random here, but I heard that stock (without the ram air) gen 4's run 340 horse, but at quoted at lower as to not compete with their higher model cars, is this true?

Posted By: Greenbird On: 02-03-2007 @ 22:21:07     Reply | Top | Edit
Look for used rims on ebay. Don't buy em new from GM.

Y pipe is for single exit exhaust. manifolds come down and y into one pipe, x pipe they keep 2 pipes all the way to the back. X and Y are the shapes of the pipe, get it?


All LS1's run around 350 horse at the engine regardless of SS, WS6, Z28 etc.
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'02 M6 WS6


Posted By: Xzael On: 02-04-2007 @ 17:25:08     Reply | Top | Edit
No no I meant like, why are people suggesting a Y pipe as opposed to an X pipe?

Posted By: Xzael On: 02-04-2007 @ 17:27:44     Reply | Top | Edit
Also what brands should I be aiming for in rims? And which brands should I avoid? Like I'm seeing some good deals around on the net, but I don't know if the rims are more for show, and the quality sucks.

Posted By: stngklr95ta On: 02-05-2007 @ 11:44:52     Reply | Top | Edit
They run 305hp to the motor on a stock LS1 and 315hp on an SS or WS6(ram air). Which means they probably put about 275 to the wheels maybe.

All rims on the internet that come from a manufacturer are the same. Just find one with the best shipping price. I've gotten wheels from two different companies off e-bay and they are both great. The wheels on my vette are AFS I think.
But yeah I would definately go for the bolt ons like have been mentioned already and then save up for a cam and supercharger.
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95 T/A, M6, 3.42's, Moroso CAI, hypertech power programmer 3, 180 deg. stat, flowmaster 80 series.

Posted By: kingandrew On: 02-05-2007 @ 19:27:07     Reply | Top | Edit
On what basis do you make your statements? Just because GM declared these cars at 305 and 315 with the RA package, doesn't mean that it's actually true. The ls1 f-body's have always been underrated from the factory. Most guys I know with LS1 f-bodys, from the factory, dyno around 290-320 to the rear wheels.
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99 m6 Trans Am, Dynatech stainless steel longtubes, 391rwhp, dual cut-outs, SLP CAI, LSX intake,TR224 cam

Posted By: hurley_21_07 On: 02-07-2007 @ 02:13:56     Reply | Top | Edit
Get air lid and k&n filter, longtube headers, y-pipe to match and a catback. Y-pipe because unless your going true duals you can't have it.

Then get this all fyno tuned and you could see almost 350rwhp. The 01-02's almost always run stronger than the 98-00.

Dan
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Posted By: BlackScreaminMachine On: 02-07-2007 @ 11:59:53     Reply | Top | Edit
I have never seen a 6speed 10 bolt car 01+ bone stock putting down less then 300 hp. Period.
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2002 Navy Blue Metallic Trans-Am, 6 Speed, Leather, T-tops. SLP Flow Pack, M/T Street Radials, Free Mods, otherwise stock. Moser 12-bolt and BMR Suspension soon to be installed.

"Miles Per Hour is not a distance that you can race"-Ronald Bastura

Posted By: crunkmaro On: 02-08-2007 @ 10:19:54     Reply | Top | Edit
even i know that theres a chart somewhere on this site of a ls corvette vs ls fbody showing that the fbody engines are grossly underrated
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1984 Red Z
1991 White/Grey Anniversery Vette L98
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Posted By: Xzael On: 02-08-2007 @ 12:09:00     Reply | Top | Edit
Thanks Dan... what are is "air lid and k&n filter" though?

Posted By: kingandrew On: 02-08-2007 @ 13:23:45     Reply | Top | Edit
That is also commonly called the "Cold Air Intake with K&N air filter"
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99 m6 Trans Am, Dynatech stainless steel longtubes, 391rwhp, dual cut-outs, SLP CAI, LSX intake,TR224 cam

Posted By: stngklr95ta On: 02-08-2007 @ 17:44:31     Reply | Top | Edit
You think that GM doesn't know what they're talking about? You think they spend all that time and money building a performance car and just throw some random number out on what they THINK the car rates for HP? Show me an f-body that dyno's at over 300hp stock from the factory. Not including a firehawk or SLP pack. I just saw a supercharged Saleen rated at 365 HP dyno at 297rwhp. I hate ford just as much as the next guy, but numbers don't lie.
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95 T/A, M6, 3.42's, Moroso CAI, hypertech power programmer 3, 180 deg. stat, flowmaster 80 series.

Posted By: kingandrew On: 02-08-2007 @ 18:12:10     Reply | Top | Edit
"You think that GM doesn't know what they're talking about? You think they spend all that time and money building a performance car and just throw some random number out on what they THINK the car rates for HP? Show me an f-body that dyno's at over 300hp stock from the factory. Not including a firehawk or SLP pack. I just saw a supercharged Saleen rated at 365 HP dyno at 297rwhp. I hate ford just as much as the next guy, but numbers don't lie."


No, I don't think GM doesn't know what they are talking about, I think YOU don't know what you're talking about. You can't assume that just because a certain type of car is rated at 305hp from factory that it is going to be excactly that. What if GM overated our beloved f-body's and told us they are 375 at the motor? I would not be happy to find out that is is ONLY pushing 300 to the wheels. All LS1 motors in the past have been proven to be different. No exact two ls1 f-bodies, stock for stock, will yield the same results. There are plenty of guys on this website who can show you, or testify to the fact that their stock ls1 f-body dynoed over 300rwhp.

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99 m6 Trans Am, Dynatech stainless steel longtubes, 391rwhp, dual cut-outs, SLP CAI, LSX intake,TR224 cam

Posted By: Greenbird On: 02-08-2007 @ 19:09:19     Reply | Top | Edit
http://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=654869


Check it out dude. 304 RWHP bone stock down to the paper filter. These results are very typical.
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Dave
'02 M6 WS6


Posted By: stngklr95ta On: 02-09-2007 @ 15:35:47     Reply | Top | Edit
I'm not taking anything from the LS1 obviously since I have one. But I'd just like to see f-body LS1 in person put down that amount of HP to the wheels. There was a C6 vette on horsepower t.v. that they Dyno'd at 340rwhp that's a 60 hp diff. from GM's numbers. I just don't see how one f-body could come out of the box with that much more hp output without some immediate attention during assembly. Not saying it couldn't happen because anything can but I wouldn't think it would be that normal to get one.
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95 T/A, M6, 3.42's, Moroso CAI, hypertech power programmer 3, 180 deg. stat, flowmaster 80 series.
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[ Edited on 02/09/2007 @ 15:49:48 ]

Posted By: stngklr95ta On: 02-09-2007 @ 15:42:25     Reply | Top | Edit


My Caps Lock Button Is Broken

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95 T/A, M6, 3.42's, Moroso CAI, hypertech power programmer 3, 180 deg. stat, flowmaster 80 series.

Posted By: kingandrew On: 02-09-2007 @ 17:42:50     Reply | Top | Edit
Your 95 TA did not come with an ls1 from the factory.

I don't know why ls1 fbodys came out that way...they just did.
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99 m6 Trans Am, Dynatech stainless steel longtubes, 391rwhp, dual cut-outs, SLP CAI, LSX intake,TR224 cam

Posted By: Greenbird On: 02-09-2007 @ 21:24:43     Reply | Top | Edit
Ummm, yeah you have an LT1. Dude, just take the hit. You're wrong, it's okay to be wrong, we've all been there.
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Dave
'02 M6 WS6


Posted By: stngklr95ta On: 02-13-2007 @ 15:01:24     Reply | Top | Edit
Well, seeing as I don't have my 95 TA and my vette will leave you standing still.
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95 T/A, M6, 3.42's, Moroso CAI, hypertech power programmer 3, 180 deg. stat, flowmaster 80 series.

Posted By: kingandrew On: 02-13-2007 @ 17:41:05     Reply | Top | Edit
Bring it on
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99 m6 Trans Am, Dynatech stainless steel longtubes, 391rwhp, dual cut-outs, SLP CAI, LSX intake,TR224 cam

Posted By: stngklr95ta On: 02-13-2007 @ 21:32:57     Reply | Top | Edit
anytime you want to go! for pink slips
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95 T/A, M6, 3.42's, Moroso CAI, hypertech power programmer 3, 180 deg. stat, flowmaster 80 series.

Posted By: 93FormulaBird On: 02-13-2007 @ 21:48:39     Reply | Top | Edit

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Posted By: kingandrew On: 02-14-2007 @ 08:54:46     Reply | Top | Edit
Yeah....the next time you're in Texas...let me know.
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99 m6 Trans Am, Dynatech stainless steel longtubes, 391rwhp, dual cut-outs, SLP CAI, LSX intake,TR224 cam

Posted By: ThumperNC24 On: 02-16-2007 @ 10:15:35     Reply | Top | Edit
stngklr95ta - your an idiot

if you have a stock C5, hes going to smoke you.

ls1 motors are under rated because GM didnt want to have the same numbers for Fbodys as they did for vettes, but they didnt want to have to change anything with the engines either...

Its been proven, even Horsepower TV dynoed a stock ls1 at over 290 rwhp and showed it was underrated


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Posted By: stngklr95ta On: 02-19-2007 @ 10:21:01     Reply | Top | Edit
And I said that my vette is stock when? Sick formula man!
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95 T/A, M6, 3.42's, Moroso CAI, hypertech power programmer 3, 180 deg. stat, flowmaster 80 series.

Posted By: Xzael On: 02-21-2007 @ 13:39:49     Reply | Top | Edit
If you ladies don't mind starting a new thread to compare bedpans that would be great. No offense, but I don't think how big your penis is vs how big his penis is, is related to '01 Trans Am WS6 Mod Suggestions.

Thanks everyone so far who's given suggestions.

Posted By: kingandrew On: 02-21-2007 @ 14:48:50     Reply | Top | Edit
My apologies, Casey, didn't mean to steal your thread. I was just making a correction so that nobody thinks that all LS1's are the same, but apparently, some people on here, and I won't say any names, *cough cough robbie cough cough* don't like to be corrected.
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99 m6 Trans Am, Dynatech stainless steel longtubes, 391rwhp, dual cut-outs, SLP CAI, LSX intake,TR224 cam

Posted By: fergymoto On: 02-27-2007 @ 23:41:03     Reply | Top | Edit
^word.
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385RWHP 433RWTQ 12.29 @ 110 1.77 60'

Posted By: foghaze On: 03-04-2007 @ 12:39:16     Reply | Top | Edit


My Caps Lock Button Is Broken

Posted By: foghaze On: 03-04-2007 @ 12:51:05     Reply | Top | Edit
Man, do you guys ever get worked up on this thread when there is no need. Lets just consider the way mpg is determined for a moment- from an old guy. The test vehicle is placed in perfect conditions (no weather, no a/c load, etc.) and is run at moderate rpm for the engine. Do you really think the rated mpg by GM or anyone else will accurately reflect what you will get on the street? A dyno that tests hp is similar in that we are talking about tests that conform to GM's factory standards. The only thing you can gauge the accuracy against is the other vehicles that were tested using the same equipment. I'm not from Kentucky, but like the phrase "Kentucky windage" here. I don't know which one of you is right, but my 02' Trans Am "feels" quicker than my old 97' LS-1. That's why I bought it and love drivin it every day.

Foghaze, Lid, Edelbrocks and bolt on stabilizers (motor and undercarriage).

Posted By: 93FormulaBird On: 03-06-2007 @ 17:32:35     Reply | Top | Edit
Woah, you had a 97 LS-1? Those are rare..... Why would u ever get rid of it
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Posted By: kingandrew On: 03-06-2007 @ 20:44:47     Reply | Top | Edit
I think he's talking about a 97 vette. Those had LS1's.
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99 m6 Trans Am, Dynatech stainless steel longtubes, 391rwhp, dual cut-outs, SLP CAI, LSX intake,TR224 cam

Posted By: f1formula On: 03-08-2007 @ 20:10:01     Reply | Top | Edit
NOt that it matters much but I've seen Ls1's go both ways. The most I've seen stock was 324rwhp while the worst was down around 259 rwhp, but kingandrew is right for the MOST part they were underrated. I personally have always found it funny that for cars with such good numbers they have never really been that much faster than LT1's making much less. My 01 WS6 isn't anywhere near as quick as my 96 WS6 was in stock form, but once again it was a freakish car with the numbers it produced only 312 rwhp but 345 ftlbs; go figure.

Posted By: f1formula On: 03-08-2007 @ 20:11:24     Reply | Top | Edit
Oh and back to the point of this thread, does anyone know where you can still get the billet grille pieces for an '01 WS6? Or a link to the removal of the factory "water catcher" in the hood?

Posted By: slow95TA On: 03-13-2007 @ 13:20:22     Reply | Top | Edit
actually the biggest bang for your buck will be gears i know cause i did it and now im killin on 00 and 01 z06 vettes and later regular vettes

Posted By: PewterScreaminMach On: 03-16-2007 @ 18:05:46     Reply | Top | Edit
HA, LS1s go both ways...
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2002 Camaro Z28 M6 - Light Pewter Metallic - A few mods....

Posted By: PewterScreaminMach On: 03-16-2007 @ 18:20:22     Reply | Top | Edit
HA, LS1s go both ways...




Anyways, Xzael, I've gotta go with full exhaust. I don't know where you heard that an exhaust will only get you 5-10 rwhp (maybe a Flowmaster catback by itself? but that would cost less than $800 - perhaps a Borla catback?), but SLP cold-air/lid, pacesetter or similar long-tube headers (not the best, but if you're on a budget...), pacesetter off-road y-pipe (or you could go with a high flow catted y and get less power but be street legal), and a Magnaflow catback should get you, maybe, 20-30 rwhp at least, depending on your car. And it should leave you plenty of money to get your wheels. Not to mention it will sound mean as hell compared to the stock exhaust setup (added bonus!).

Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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2002 Camaro Z28 M6 - Light Pewter Metallic - A few mods....
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2002 Camaro Z28 M6 - Light Pewter Metallic - A few mods....
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Posted By: f1formula On: 03-19-2007 @ 08:53:27     Reply | Top | Edit
The only way you'd pick up 20-30 rwhp is a) the factory pipes had been welded shut or b) the guy with the dyno sold the exhaust and played with some numbers to make it look better. That would be 40 or 50 hp at the crank, and the stock exhaust isnt that restrictive. With a good long tube you may pick up an additional 5- 10 but thats about all unless your cats are scrwewd to begin with.
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Posted By: SR71blkbird On: 03-21-2007 @ 21:08:32     Reply | Top | Edit
that's pretty funny.... especially when GMhightech just did a CAI, TB airfoil, and a Magnaflow catback and gained 30hp & 25tq on an LT1 (all dynoed rwhp btw). and since the LS1 breathes/flows better from the factory, i don't see why this would be that hard to match those gains.

and, yes, GM has been under-rating their performance cars for years. one main reason is insurance compliance. another main reason is sales. why spend 50k on a vette if they tell you up front that an fbody will match it. it's strategy in their selling. like someone said earlier, would you be happier with a car that is faster than claimed stock, or slower *cough mustang cough*. and the main difference in hp #s between the fbody and ybody (vette) is that the ybody has true dual exhaust. the reason that the 01-02 fbodies feel faster is because ALL 01-02s came with the LS6 block and intake.

i am a certified GM tech, in case someone wonders where i get my info. and i have seen a stock 96 SS put down 296rwhp and have seen an LS6 only make 328, but i have also seen a bone stock 02 CETA make 323rwhp. they can't list every car separately, so they find a good average for sales figures.

sorry for the long post, but i hate it when people run their mouths without learning what they are talking about.

and to answer your question, listen to the smart guys....cold air, headers, y-pipe, catback should be your first stepping stone.
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Posted By: kingandrew On: 03-22-2007 @ 08:11:13     Reply | Top | Edit
Are you sure ALL 01's and 02's came with LS6 block? I heard they ran out of the LS1 block for some of the 01-02 models, so they just started putting in the LS6 blocks. I know the LS6 intake was standard though.
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