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Fiero VS. Formula

Posted By: 94AquaFormula On: 03-14-2010 @ 23:52:05         Reply | Edit
Ok this kid just put in a racing clutch in his v6 manual Fiero which he think can beat me it also has so Perf. Coil or something. I have a 94 Firebird Formula with K&N air filter Perf. Driveshaft and Perf. RearEnd. Tell me if he even stands a chance i heard these cars can get up and go i need some Info. I all most beat a LS1 it beat me by one car it was a 01 Camaro 6 speed.

Posted By: ChazGotAZ28 On: 11-04-2005 @ 01:14:41     Reply | Top | Edit
You'll kill him, fiero's are good at one thing though and that's catching on fire.
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Posted By: Greenbird On: 11-04-2005 @ 11:53:53     Reply | Top | Edit
unless he has a v8 swap, you're gold.
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Posted By: BlackScreaminMachine On: 11-04-2005 @ 13:03:08     Reply | Top | Edit
Yes, even a tpi motor in those things can spell trouble if its a v6. Your golden. Just dont blow the launch
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Posted By: 94AquaFormula On: 11-04-2005 @ 14:16:30     Reply | Top | Edit
Thanks i beat a LS1 on the line about three cars so i think i can get him on the line.

Posted By: 94AquaFormula On: 11-04-2005 @ 14:27:44     Reply | Top | Edit
Street Races

Have Raced and Won
1. Steven Stewart- 76 Buick Century
2. Some White Eclipse
3. Dusty Endicott- 69 Mustang and 86 Camaro Iroz-Z
4. Emmett Shields- 74 Trans Am
5. Joey Frazier- 80’s Turbocharged Thunderbird
6. Some 02 S-10 Extreme
7. Mike Hutson- 90 Mustang

Future Races
1. Zach Payton- 80’s Mustang supposedly with N.O.S.
2. Ryan Monford- 94 Firebird Formula
3. Justin Burris- 96 Mustang-Won’t Race Me
4. Blake Schild- 02 S-10 Extreme

Races Lost
1. Lee Mitchell- 01 Camaro Z28 Lost by one car
2. Some Mustang Lost by one and half cars

Posted By: Greenbird On: 11-04-2005 @ 14:31:23     Reply | Top | Edit
if you don't mind my asking, how old are you?
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Posted By: 94AquaFormula On: 11-04-2005 @ 14:33:19     Reply | Top | Edit
16


My Caps Lock Button Is Broken

Posted By: Greenbird On: 11-04-2005 @ 14:46:21     Reply | Top | Edit
figured as much.

Slow down man, simply be happy to have such a nice car at your age. I know you think your invincable and nothing can happen to you. But street racing is dangerous in and of itself, i never do it. There is a reason it's illegal. Be careful man, be really careful, you've got alot of power there. You don't need to prove yourself to everyone with a pulse. And if you feel the need to race, take it to the track. It's safe and legal.

I don't mean to preach and I don't mean to tell you that you're irresonsible. I just don't want to hear another story about a kid who was street racing and killed a family of four.

Just think and don't get a good case of of SPS (Pronounced Spiz) (Small Penis Symdrome) Meaning a guy that has to prove to EVERYONE that his car is faster.
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Posted By: BlackScreaminMachine On: 11-04-2005 @ 15:00:33     Reply | Top | Edit
Yea, really. When I do race its me and the other guy, NO ONE AROUND. On the freeway with guard rails or barriers.

This is so that if anything happens its because of our collective dumbasses.

No one else will be hurt, but again its dangerous. If I had a track that was less than 2 hours away, id take it there.

but then id have to live in jersey
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Posted By: uhf357 On: 11-04-2005 @ 15:31:59     Reply | Top | Edit
Greenbird and Blackscreamingmachine.
relax,man....
and just a recomendation I would not post names of people you street raced on the internet.....

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Posted By: RedScreaminMachine On: 11-04-2005 @ 18:38:54     Reply | Top | Edit
Even if you blow the launch you'll win. Hell, you could probably blow your motor and still edge him.

Why the hell are people trying to race with S10 Extremes?

Be careful and have fun.
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Ram Air Scoop, SLP Lid, K&N Filter, Smooth Bellow, Borla Exhaust, Dynatech Long Tube Headers, High-Flow Cats, TB bypass, BMR Adjustable Torque Arm, BMR Rear Lower Control Arms, Nitto Drag Radials; 344 RWHP @ 5350 RPM, and 356 RWTQ @ 4650 RPM; 12.55 @ 111.5 mph with a 1.92 60'; new mods: 3.73 gears, FAST 78mm TB

Posted By: 94AquaFormula On: 11-06-2005 @ 13:52:54     Reply | Top | Edit
Because they are quick for a S-10 My brother has one and it keeps up with me we are going to cold intake it and chip-it and hopefully turbo it so it can kill some ricers.

Posted By: RedScreaminMachine On: 11-06-2005 @ 14:06:45     Reply | Top | Edit
What is done to it that it keeps up with an LT1?
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M6 with Hurst shifter, T-tops, Leather, 12 CD Changer
Ram Air Scoop, SLP Lid, K&N Filter, Smooth Bellow, Borla Exhaust, Dynatech Long Tube Headers, High-Flow Cats, TB bypass, BMR Adjustable Torque Arm, BMR Rear Lower Control Arms, Nitto Drag Radials; 344 RWHP @ 5350 RPM, and 356 RWTQ @ 4650 RPM; 12.55 @ 111.5 mph with a 1.92 60'; new mods: 3.73 gears, FAST 78mm TB

Posted By: cypher_2001 On: 11-06-2005 @ 21:23:42     Reply | Top | Edit
^^Thats what I want to know. Stock those were at best mid to high 15s.
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Posted By: 94AquaFormula On: 11-06-2005 @ 22:25:01     Reply | Top | Edit
K@N air Filter Exaust and its a 02 so it keeps up with me because of the new technolgy its not that my car is slow because i only lost to a LS1 by a Car, and the kid who has the LS1 could drive.

Posted By: RoAdRaGe912 On: 11-06-2005 @ 23:17:43     Reply | Top | Edit
wrong
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Posted By: 94AquaFormula On: 11-06-2005 @ 23:27:03     Reply | Top | Edit
Wrong? I would not even be Talking i Will Rape your Z28 so shut your mouth.

Posted By: 94AquaFormula On: 11-06-2005 @ 23:29:52     Reply | Top | Edit
What Kind of Dumb Ass wrecks his Car into some sort of Tank This is for you Take Drivers ED and open Your Eyes.

Posted By: RedScreaminMachine On: 11-07-2005 @ 07:39:36     Reply | Top | Edit
You're car either isn't running right, or he has alot of nitrous if his stock S10 Extreme is keeping up with you. To the best of my knowledge the extreme's had the same motor as any other S10. MAYBE rated a little over 200 hp. I've seen supercharged ones struggling to go low 14's. Stock...HAHAHA.
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M6 with Hurst shifter, T-tops, Leather, 12 CD Changer
Ram Air Scoop, SLP Lid, K&N Filter, Smooth Bellow, Borla Exhaust, Dynatech Long Tube Headers, High-Flow Cats, TB bypass, BMR Adjustable Torque Arm, BMR Rear Lower Control Arms, Nitto Drag Radials; 344 RWHP @ 5350 RPM, and 356 RWTQ @ 4650 RPM; 12.55 @ 111.5 mph with a 1.92 60'; new mods: 3.73 gears, FAST 78mm TB

Posted By: RedScreaminMachine On: 11-07-2005 @ 07:41:25     Reply | Top | Edit
Also, if you think that there's so much technology in the 4.3 then why don't they use it in the Trailblazers or Colorados?
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Red 2002 Camaro Z28
M6 with Hurst shifter, T-tops, Leather, 12 CD Changer
Ram Air Scoop, SLP Lid, K&N Filter, Smooth Bellow, Borla Exhaust, Dynatech Long Tube Headers, High-Flow Cats, TB bypass, BMR Adjustable Torque Arm, BMR Rear Lower Control Arms, Nitto Drag Radials; 344 RWHP @ 5350 RPM, and 356 RWTQ @ 4650 RPM; 12.55 @ 111.5 mph with a 1.92 60'; new mods: 3.73 gears, FAST 78mm TB

Posted By: 17andCrazy On: 11-07-2005 @ 09:00:23     Reply | Top | Edit
cuz it sucks...
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Posted By: number1 On: 11-07-2005 @ 23:27:40     Reply | Top | Edit
I like the 4.3 Vortec, but is is NOT for racing.

Coming to a board asking for help about racing a slow car, claiming to keep up to a faster car, and then running your mouth at a regular who, has a cammed Z28, and you think you are worthy to drive your car? Sell your car before there is another idiot dead because his brain is actually smaller than his tiny penis.


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Posted By: BlackScreaminMachine On: 11-08-2005 @ 09:37:53     Reply | Top | Edit


Posted By: 17andCrazy On: 11-08-2005 @ 11:56:36     Reply | Top | Edit
have you seen my baseball??
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[ Edited on 11/08/2005 @ 11:56:59 ]

Posted By: CATransam On: 11-08-2005 @ 19:25:06     Reply | Top | Edit
Children should be seen and not heard, if u want to talk shit about some one then mebby u should go over to the honda forums, they love little kids with more engine than brains. damn troll.
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Posted By: CATransam On: 11-09-2005 @ 02:20:55     Reply | Top | Edit
This guy sounds like 2002ss400 hmmmm. even though that was long ago. must be a trol gene.


My Caps Lock Button Is Almost As Gay As this A$$ Clown

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"No way dude...i saw an LS1 fight godzilla and the LS1 beat godzilla and it looked in the air and was like what do you think of that god? And god was like bring it bitch, so they fought and the LS1 beat god and now the LS1 is god because its the greatest thing ever"
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"No way dude...i saw an LS1 fight godzilla and the LS1 beat godzilla and it looked in the air and was like what do you think of that god? And god was like bring it bitch, so they fought and the LS1 beat god and now the LS1 is god because its the greatest thing ever"
what I once thought was, is now no more.
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[ Edited on 11/09/2005 @ 02:23:02 ]

Posted By: RoAdRaGe912 On: 11-09-2005 @ 02:20:57     Reply | Top | Edit
bwahahahahhaha.

ur bullshitting me right?? ur sack of dog crap is as slow as an S-10. u should kill urself already.

haha, your comment on the wreck did make me laugh. not much i can say about that, except shit happens. it's called an accident kid and just hope u make it to 22 before your first one.

sorry if you're still an idiot because you think that because of technology that a shitbox newer S-10 can keep up with you. it's either called u suck at driving or u bought a pile of dogshit craftily sculpted into the shape of an fbody. it'll be easy to tell. if u jump inside and it smells like your boyfriend's dick when he's through with you, then it's made of dogshit. if not then u just suck at driving.

there's no reason why you should be even with an 02 S-10 besides those two reasons or he's got a lot of mods.
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Posted By: RoAdRaGe912 On: 11-09-2005 @ 02:34:14     Reply | Top | Edit
just in case u wanna blab any about me not having a car or mine being totalled, i own two fbodies sitting in my driveway right now kid.
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Posted By: BlackScreaminMachine On: 11-09-2005 @ 09:50:39     Reply | Top | Edit
Well All I can say is......



YOU GOT SERVED!
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'94 Black Z28, 383 LT1 Breaking 11's SOON!

A good friend will bail you out of jail, your best friend will be sitting next to you saying "Dude, that was Awesome!!"

Posted By: blck89rs On: 11-09-2005 @ 10:46:27     Reply | Top | Edit
im a fellow 16 yearold and i think your a dumbass, come on a friggen s-10, only way he's whipping your ass is if hes done a v8 swap or if hes stupied enough to throw like a 200 shot on
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Posted By: screaming99Z28 On: 11-09-2005 @ 14:04:12     Reply | Top | Edit
Honestly though, 1st of all who actually races a '76 Buick Century, and 2nd, if you actually did why would you put it on your kill list?
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Burgundy-orange '95 Z26 (Beretta)automatic 3.1L V-6

Posted By: 17andCrazy On: 11-09-2005 @ 16:33:29     Reply | Top | Edit
i'd race one and i would add it to my kill list not like you see them every day.

in all honesty kid, you probably just suck at driving. gotta bring it over 3000 cupcake
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Posted By: RedScreaminMachine On: 11-09-2005 @ 18:08:17     Reply | Top | Edit
This thread gets funnier every time I check up on it!

I wonder why he hasn't responded?
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Red 2002 Camaro Z28
M6 with Hurst shifter, T-tops, Leather, 12 CD Changer
Ram Air Scoop, SLP Lid, K&N Filter, Smooth Bellow, Borla Exhaust, Dynatech Long Tube Headers, High-Flow Cats, BMR Adjustable Torque Arm, BMR Rear Lower Control Arms, Nitto Drag Radials; 344 RWHP @ 5350 RPM, and 356 RWTQ @ 4650 RPM; 12.55 @ 111.5 mph with a 1.92 60'; new mods: 3.73 gears, FAST 78mm TB, SPEC 3 Clutch, Pro 5.0 Shifter

Posted By: RoAdRaGe912 On: 11-09-2005 @ 23:21:21     Reply | Top | Edit
i didn't even know about it until last night when somebody else mentioned it to me.

i really did laugh when i read his replies too. man this kid got his nips all twisted by my crazy ONE WORD reply.
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Posted By: RedScreaminMachine On: 11-10-2005 @ 08:01:07     Reply | Top | Edit
LOL, you hard ass...responding with such a harsh word..."wrong"
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Red 2002 Camaro Z28
M6 with Hurst shifter, T-tops, Leather, 12 CD Changer
Ram Air Scoop, SLP Lid, K&N Filter, Smooth Bellow, Borla Exhaust, Dynatech Long Tube Headers, High-Flow Cats, BMR Adjustable Torque Arm, BMR Rear Lower Control Arms, Nitto Drag Radials; 344 RWHP @ 5350 RPM, and 356 RWTQ @ 4650 RPM; 12.55 @ 111.5 mph with a 1.92 60'; new mods: 3.73 gears, FAST 78mm TB, SPEC 3 Clutch, Pro 5.0 Shifter

Posted By: roubenbird On: 11-10-2005 @ 11:20:38     Reply | Top | Edit
come on guys arent you being harsh on the little fellow.lol

hey buddy,
here are the facts,(i wont say your wrong but)
you didnt barely lose to a ls1 witha person that can drive. You are a bad driver or your car is slow, or your friend has the fastest S10 in the United States.

next time your not out beating slow cars in races, you can read this and be enlightened.
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Posted By: number1 On: 11-10-2005 @ 16:02:56     Reply | Top | Edit



Frank and beans. Frank and Beans.


Posted By: blck89rs On: 11-10-2005 @ 16:29:08     Reply | Top | Edit
oo and dont think about calling any of us out, because 1) our cars wont have any trouble handing you your ass 2)it would jsut be a stupid idea just to prove to you what your car cant do
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Posted By: RoAdRaGe912 On: 11-10-2005 @ 16:43:03     Reply | Top | Edit
my car wasn't fast. i sold the nitrous remember
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Posted By: blck89rs On: 11-10-2005 @ 17:46:59     Reply | Top | Edit
o yea right cause nitrous vs. n/a the NAWWWZZ will always win right?
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Posted By: cypher_2001 On: 11-10-2005 @ 19:34:21     Reply | Top | Edit
I raced an S-10 with the 4.3. I kicked it sideways, and still ate him alive. So that means I can beat his Formula? Maybe in a few weeks when I get my turbo kit installed.
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Posted By: 94AquaFormula On: 11-12-2005 @ 00:50:30     Reply | Top | Edit
Ok First of All That pissed me off when that dude said Wrong like what the fuck is that for Iam just a little tired of taking people shit so sorry about that and another thing is thats cool if you dont like Extreme S-10s i do so whatever and my brothes is pretty quick for a six-Clinder. And yeah i will call out anybody Just come down to Wichita,Kansas i will race you. And that 91 RT-TT that thing is a piese of shit you run a 13.8 and you think you can beat me lol bring that pill of shit down here so i can rape it.

Posted By: RoAdRaGe912 On: 11-12-2005 @ 02:06:27     Reply | Top | Edit
wrong
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Posted By: RoAdRaGe912 On: 11-12-2005 @ 02:13:28     Reply | Top | Edit
but really, who cares if it pissed you off, it's the truth. technology has nothing to do with why an 02 S-10 extreme with just a filter could hang you. either it has QUITE a few more mods or your car has problems PERIOD. they pack technology of mods into those new hybrid cars, so i guess i better watch out.

not that it matters that you are calling out people on the internet, and not that anybody is actually going to go to kansas, but there's only two people in this thread that you'd stand a chance with anyway. get over yourself. i have more money in mods on my car than you even paid for yours and i still can't even play with the medium sized fish, so you've got a long way to go.

you're going to have a lot of problems if you can't listen to people, because you obviously haven't even started to learn about cars yet.
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[ Edited on 11/12/2005 @ 02:14:40 ]

Posted By: blck89rs On: 11-12-2005 @ 12:46:36     Reply | Top | Edit
so you really want to race an low 12 high 11 second car ? honestly?
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Posted By: RedScreaminMachine On: 11-12-2005 @ 15:55:47     Reply | Top | Edit
Let me get this straight...An S-10 Extreme hung with you, and you think you can beat a car that runs 13.8? Just how fast is this magical S-10?
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M6 with Hurst shifter, T-tops, Leather, 12 CD Changer
Ram Air Scoop, SLP Lid, K&N Filter, Smooth Bellow, Borla Exhaust, Dynatech Long Tube Headers, High-Flow Cats, BMR Adjustable Torque Arm, BMR Rear Lower Control Arms, Nitto Drag Radials; 344 RWHP @ 5350 RPM, and 356 RWTQ @ 4650 RPM; 12.55 @ 111.5 mph with a 1.92 60'; new mods: 3.73 gears, FAST 78mm TB, SPEC 3 Clutch, Pro 5.0 Shifter

Posted By: blck89rs On: 11-12-2005 @ 17:08:02     Reply | Top | Edit

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Posted By: number1 On: 11-12-2005 @ 23:46:02     Reply | Top | Edit
11's on motor

Spray numbers are on the way.

Posted By: RoAdRaGe912 On: 11-13-2005 @ 00:33:59     Reply | Top | Edit
does it still go WOO WOOOO!??

i've been steadily posting on this site for two years and have barely ever gotten tiny bits and pieces about your setup number1. you used to post quite a bit a year ago and before that. unless im just crazy it's a silver LT1 right?
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Posted By: 94AquaFormula On: 11-13-2005 @ 03:56:40     Reply | Top | Edit
I beat the S-10 By Four or Five cars yeah bring your 12 low second car down here i will race you what i just got on this web site what the fuck.

Posted By: RedScreaminMachine On: 11-13-2005 @ 06:07:44     Reply | Top | Edit
Ever hear of commas..or periods..or grammar?

Also, an S-10 probably runs 15.8-16.5 in the 1/4 mile. So if you beat him by 5 cars then that puts you in the 14.5-14.7 range I'd say. Hardly fast enough to beat a 13.8 second car. Also, it sounds like the guy with the LS1 sucks at launching or driving.
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M6 with Hurst shifter, T-tops, Leather, 12 CD Changer
Ram Air Scoop, SLP Lid, K&N Filter, Smooth Bellow, Borla Exhaust, Dynatech Long Tube Headers, High-Flow Cats, BMR Adjustable Torque Arm, BMR Rear Lower Control Arms, Nitto Drag Radials; 344 RWHP @ 5350 RPM, and 356 RWTQ @ 4650 RPM; 12.55 @ 111.5 mph with a 1.92 60'; new mods: 3.73 gears, FAST 78mm TB, SPEC 3 Clutch, Pro 5.0 Shifter
[ Edited on 11/13/2005 @ 06:11:26 ]

Posted By: blck89rs On: 11-13-2005 @ 19:05:48     Reply | Top | Edit
ok you going to pay for my gas to get from jersey to kansas? you can ask quite a few people about my car they know its no joke, half this site is no joke when it comes to the cars so i wouldnt go running your mouth saying i can beat this or that and making fun of a dodge that can whip your ass
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Posted By: stevethepirate On: 11-13-2005 @ 21:06:28     Reply | Top | Edit
ill go to kansas and fu(k you up bro. ill fu(k you sideways, backways, frontways, everyfu(kingways! your car aint got sh!t on me! i was out and i beat this vw beetle by a car and a half, it was badass. then an 03 z06 got me by 2 cars, so i hung with a z06! you wanna think twice about racing me, bro? yeah, thats what i thought.
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Posted By: 94AquaFormula On: 11-13-2005 @ 21:46:23     Reply | Top | Edit
ok Come down here and fuck me up if you can race my dads vette i bet you can't keep up with that. Its the new Zo6 it runs 11.8 mabey you can beat that i dont think you can beat it. i have no beef with any of you guys. I think i can beat the dodge SR/TT by a car or so i'am not saying i will beat any of you i'am just saying i will race you. Stevethepirate your car is kick ass i hope we can become friends or something. I dont know why you guys dont like the S-10s but i do sorry if i pissed you guys off i have a little bit pissed off.

Posted By: blck89rs On: 11-13-2005 @ 22:04:06     Reply | Top | Edit
its good you apologized, as for the new z06 idk how many guys are going to belive you with out pics, and as for hating s-10's i doubt it, i like them personally especially with either an old sgc swap or an ls1 swap
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Posted By: blck89rs On: 11-13-2005 @ 22:04:46     Reply | Top | Edit
oo and you dont want to be friends with steve.....he goes the other way
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Posted By: stevethepirate On: 11-13-2005 @ 22:57:44     Reply | Top | Edit
keith, did i cum in your eye? im sorry....
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Posted By: stevethepirate On: 11-13-2005 @ 22:58:29     Reply | Top | Edit
oh yeah, and buddy... my car is a stock v6

thanks for the props though!
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Posted By: Blue_74_Trans_Am On: 11-13-2005 @ 23:41:09     Reply | Top | Edit
Ok my name is emmett. I am the guy with the 74 Trans am that that guy beat. We went from a 50 mph rool and he pulled a car or so. Wasnt really a long race or anything but he would beat me. Its funny because his car is actually stock running with cars that have been fixed up. I was there watching him race that 2001 z28 camaro and he beat the guy by like 3 cars off the line and then the camaro was at the front of his car, the guy could barely pull in front of him because he was so close. I also raced that camaro and i smoke him of the line to. He pulled about 3 cars ahead of me, and the next day my car spun a rod barring . Im going to put a little old 450 lift cam, Intake, Headers, and 4.10 gears in my car. All my car has right now is Straight pipes going into flowmaster 40 series and im running with lt1 camaros and firebirds. My car isnt fast but it damn sure isnt slow. About that s10 that truck is really quick for the 6 cylinder. Blck89rs did u actually buy ur car and put all that money into ur car to make it run whatever it runs or did ur parents? Im doing everything by myself. By the way his dad does have a z06 vette

Posted By: stevethepirate On: 11-14-2005 @ 00:04:28     Reply | Top | Edit
Blck89rs just acquired that car. while i am not sure if he paid for the whole thing, or if the cost was subsidized by his parents, he knows his shit. he is doing all of the work on it now.
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Posted By: RoAdRaGe912 On: 11-14-2005 @ 03:44:20     Reply | Top | Edit
i can e-kick all of your asses
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Posted By: Blue_74_Trans_Am On: 11-14-2005 @ 11:38:05     Reply | Top | Edit
Well im just saying its going to be really hard for a 16 year old to buy a car, fix up the car and make an old car run 11's or even low 12's. He might know his stuff but I wana see him buy everything on his own and not have any parental help. Trust me when i get to be 25 years old i will have a drag car to. Steve there is no way ur 6 cylinder car will run with the z06 vette im sorry to say. I rape those 6 cylinder camaros all day long, and my car isnt that fast.

Posted By: ChazGotAZ28 On: 11-14-2005 @ 14:10:49     Reply | Top | Edit
Steve was just kidding around, he doesn't really think he can hang with a Z06.
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Posted By: blck89rs On: 11-14-2005 @ 15:21:43     Reply | Top | Edit
yea but.... the car may have that much work but i did pay for half which the final cost was 2k of which i put in a grand out of my pocket and all parts that are added/replaced are also payed for out of my pocket
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Posted By: Blue_74_Trans_Am On: 11-14-2005 @ 16:25:47     Reply | Top | Edit
Well im just saying i have a 74 trans am and its going to take a bit to get my car to run 12's. I dont have a dad help teach me about cars or nething i have uncles that have tought me all i know. I know that it takes a decent amount of money to get an older car to run 12's. Thats cool a 16 year old has that fast of a car but i just wanted to know if u actually payed for everything for ur car by urself. I got my car given to me and it wasnt that great. I have put a couple grand into it just fixing shit like the motor went out 1 time and the transmission and my frame even broke but now my motor spun a bearing again i think. Im gona get it fixed with 450 lift cam, performer intake, headers, flowmaster 40 series mufflers (already on) and 4.10 gears. Im hoping that will make it low 13's tell me what u think it will run people.

Posted By: RoAdRaGe912 On: 11-14-2005 @ 16:39:58     Reply | Top | Edit
Blue74- nobody cares what you think about how they got their car. i paid for my own and then put tons of money into it (much much more than you have). who cares. i don't give people crap because their parents paid for their car. i'm only 22 now and i've had the car in my sig for almost 4 years to the day.

you are in high school, go loiter somewhere public.

basically just stop posting in this thread. there is no reason for you to post. your friend got his panties wedged up in his little vag and did u come to rescue him or what? if you are going to spend your life looking down on others because they haven't paid for everything like you had to (maybe, but think about all that your parents pay for; i bet somebody else takes care of your medical problems, including almost everything else) then you are gonna have a sad sad life. i know you're still in high school and emotion is more important than logic, so i'll give you the benefit of the doubt and think that you'll figure it out one day.
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Posted By: blck89rs On: 11-14-2005 @ 17:11:05     Reply | Top | Edit
trust me this isnt my first car either ive already owned 2 fbodies and done more then enough engine work and swaps then some 30 year old guys , so i may only be 16 but i dont act or think like i am
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Posted By: RedScreaminMachine On: 11-14-2005 @ 18:05:43     Reply | Top | Edit
This thread gets funnier and funnier.

And I guess I was right, the guy with the LS1 couldn't launch it
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Posted By: stevethepirate On: 11-14-2005 @ 18:40:37     Reply | Top | Edit
i wasnt joking about that... i Pwn z06's all day, everyday.

and the truth comes out, keith actually has been giving sexual favors to the previous owner for a long time, the guy decided to be nice so he gave keith the bu.


and until i see pics, youre all little bitches! ALL OF YOU
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Posted By: Blue_74_Trans_Am On: 11-14-2005 @ 21:01:03     Reply | Top | Edit
LOL roadrage ur funny WOW u can throw all your money into your camaro. You started out with a what? about a 14 flat car? im starting with a car that runs 15's or something like that stock.... My car weights 3800+ and urs weights what? 3300? you got a 350 ls1? or lt1? i dont know i didnt read up on your car... Ihave a 400 BONE STOCK and i bet i run low 14s with flowmaster exhaust. And yes you should have more money than me. Im a senior and i have a parttime job. I will tell you right now yes you do have anice car and im sorry you wrecked it. It sucks seeing such a nice car get totaled, but i was only trying to make a point. You can think whatever you want about me but i dont give a crap because your opinion means nothing to me. I am posting on here because i wanted to see what people thought my car should run.

Posted By: CATransam On: 11-14-2005 @ 22:02:54     Reply | Top | Edit
ur car is a dog WOOF and roadrage, im gona kick u in the box getting these kids all pissed off at the world, dont you remember when you were that age and full of angst? or wait ur from texas so that would be angus but still.... bah fuck it give em hell!!!eleventyone11!111111!
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Posted By: RoAdRaGe912 On: 11-15-2005 @ 02:45:52     Reply | Top | Edit
all my money on my car??

i'm sorry if i could afford to spend more money to get a car, spend more money on that car, and still go to a big name university (read 15k+ a year in tuition and housing). i was lucky enough that after my second year of college my dad offered to pay for the rest of my schooling. my point was not about how much money i have (i didn't, and i worked for everything), but about you two high school badasses needing to realize where you are in the food chain. my point was that i have already spent much more than you on something that was already faster and i still don't rule the streets so i dunno why you two think you do.

actually i went 13.9 bone stock and that was on worse than stock tires. my car weighed 3550 as is without me in it. yeah, your 400 is so much better than my 350 LT1 because it has 50 more cubes. if that's what you're saying then you're just an idiot. somebody couldn't pay me enough to swap motors with you.

you can bet all you want, but i actually go to the track.

are u saying that you're starting out with a car that goes 15s and putting exhaust on it is gonna drop u a full second?
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Posted By: CATransam On: 11-15-2005 @ 03:37:40     Reply | Top | Edit
must be more backpressure, thats the only way to make more power with just an exhaust.
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Posted By: stevethepirate On: 11-15-2005 @ 08:48:42     Reply | Top | Edit
i stuck my penis in my tail pipe... car became sick fast, the whole backpressure thing is TRUE!
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Posted By: Blue_74_Trans_Am On: 11-15-2005 @ 11:31:50     Reply | Top | Edit
I wasn't saying my car was better than yours i told you that your car is nice. Im saying your car has a better motor and less weight which means you will run alot faster. If you saw my car and saw i race you wouldnt think it was that bad. Its a 30 year old car running with newer cars. I think thats pretty good. You can talk all the crap you want about it. If you wana bring your car down here i got a few friends with cars like yours you can race. But you gota put up money because they only race for money.

Posted By: V8Poser On: 11-15-2005 @ 11:44:53     Reply | Top | Edit
flowmaster really brings the power and potential out of any car, doesnt it?
doh... i have one. gay
pretty sure it made me slower
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Posted By: 94AquaFormula On: 11-15-2005 @ 11:51:02     Reply | Top | Edit
V8Poser-Well that sucks for you that it didn't help you should just sell your car or kill your self now that it didn't help.

Posted By: Blue_74_Trans_Am On: 11-15-2005 @ 12:18:10     Reply | Top | Edit
hey

Posted By: Blue_74_Trans_Am On: 11-15-2005 @ 12:19:09     Reply | Top | Edit
aren't you sick

Posted By: Blue_74_Trans_Am On: 11-15-2005 @ 12:25:57     Reply | Top | Edit
Damn calvin your girl got on my computer while i went to the bathroom and now shes typing shit lol.... but yes my exhaust did a number to my car. I just wana know why all you dumbass's talk shit on here? What are you gona prove by talking shit on here? Ya you guys are older than me and plus have way more money into your cars. I know people like you here in town. So like i said BRING YOUR CARS TO WICHITA and we will smoke your cars ok? so quit running your mouths

Posted By: RoAdRaGe912 On: 11-15-2005 @ 14:59:20     Reply | Top | Edit
nobody was talking shit on here except you and your friend. get a clue. nobody cares about who you know. i know cars much faster than that plus i'm cooler and my penis is way longer than yours. i win.
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Posted By: RoAdRaGe912 On: 11-15-2005 @ 15:06:06     Reply | Top | Edit
lol, you haven't figured it out yet so i'll explain.

i dunno who u thought was talking shit, but nobody has been serious. i'm not talking shit to you because i could care less about you or your car. nobody cares who your friends are either. i come from one of the biggest street racing cities in the nation (HOUSTON) and i bet i know a couple people at least .

if you don't figure it out then you will just stay pissed off and keep arguing and people will keep talking crap to you, but the difference is that they will be laughing when they do it and you are taking it serious.
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Posted By: Blue_74_Trans_Am On: 11-15-2005 @ 16:45:20     Reply | Top | Edit
Actually i was just getting on this site to try to get some info on cars like mine to see whats good to put in it. ROADRAGE your the one who started saying shit when all i said was its hard for a 16 year old to build a 12 second car. Which if you think about it, it really is. Why do you say you have a bigger cock than me? Thats pretty immature if you think about it.

Posted By: stevethepirate On: 11-15-2005 @ 16:50:34     Reply | Top | Edit
he does though, its GINORMOUS, if he sticks it in his tail pipe, he would have like 900 horsepower probably. its bigger than mine :/ only by a little bit though
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Posted By: Blue_74_Trans_Am On: 11-15-2005 @ 17:19:30     Reply | Top | Edit
Steve your a sick mother fucker

Posted By: blck89rs On: 11-15-2005 @ 17:40:58     Reply | Top | Edit
yea steve is a little sick bastard but hes cool as hell and only joking, all these guys are really , and for calling people out remeber theres always one faster then you so if you get someone with a 10 second car someone else will most likley come in with a 9 second car its a food chain like roadrage said
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Posted By: Blue_74_Trans_Am On: 11-15-2005 @ 17:54:51     Reply | Top | Edit
I know that and i was only trying to get some help on ideas for my car and trying to find out some more info on cars. Im still learning about cars. I wana get to know alot about cars. Im just trying to see what people can tell me about cars

Posted By: RedScreaminMachine On: 11-15-2005 @ 18:49:20     Reply | Top | Edit
I still want to know why they think that S-10 was so fast. Can they be fast...yes, it's called "drop a 350 into it or juice the hell out of it". Are they anywhere near fast stock...no.
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Ram Air Scoop, SLP Lid, K&N Filter, Smooth Bellow, Borla Exhaust, Dynatech Long Tube Headers, High-Flow Cats, BMR Adjustable Torque Arm, BMR Rear Lower Control Arms, Nitto Drag Radials; 344 RWHP @ 5350 RPM, and 356 RWTQ @ 4650 RPM; new mods: 3.73 gears, FAST 78mm TB, SPEC 3 Clutch, Pro 5.0 Shifter; new time: 12.51 @ 114.2 mph, 1.82 60'

Posted By: CATransam On: 11-15-2005 @ 18:59:37     Reply | Top | Edit
or a TT 427 c5r block like what lingenfelter did with a GMC sonoma. AWD and like 900 HP it was runnin 10's at the super tuner shootout that C&D did, but then it broke.
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Posted By: RoAdRaGe912 On: 11-15-2005 @ 19:28:57     Reply | Top | Edit
get a sense of humor dude. all anybody has done was mess with you and you have taken everything serious. i could just continue being funny and make another comment like my penis is bigger but you'd still take it seriously, as if i was trying to call you out or prove something. ok ok, i'll spell it out. you were dumb enough to call people out like your friend and then proceeded to say that you have friends with badass cars. it's the internet and that is just stupid, so i made a stupid comment which is just as worthless like my cock is bigger.

i thought u started talking crap with black89 asking if he paid for his own car.
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Posted By: RedScreaminMachine On: 11-15-2005 @ 23:33:14     Reply | Top | Edit
An S-10 I tell you! It has teeth that are...it's claws are...just look at the bones, man!
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Ram Air Scoop, SLP Lid, K&N Filter, Smooth Bellow, Borla Exhaust, Dynatech Long Tube Headers, High-Flow Cats, BMR Adjustable Torque Arm, BMR Rear Lower Control Arms, Nitto Drag Radials; 344 RWHP @ 5350 RPM, and 356 RWTQ @ 4650 RPM; new mods: 3.73 gears, FAST 78mm TB, SPEC 3 Clutch, Pro 5.0 Shifter; new time: 12.51 @ 114.2 mph, 1.82 60'
[ Edited on 11/15/2005 @ 23:35:13 ]

Posted By: Blue_74_Trans_Am On: 11-15-2005 @ 23:51:23     Reply | Top | Edit
ok i was just saying is gona be really hard for a 16 year old to get a 12 second car... which if you think about it, it really wouldnt be easy unless you had help. Im not talking shit on him becaues i know a kid that has an s10 that runs 9 and a 70's camaro that runs 10s and he drives a 94 formula (not the same guy on here) and his formula is his daily driver. Hes had the s10 for a while and hes 17 or something like that. I think is cool... i was just asking if he really bought his car by himself or had help

Posted By: stevethepirate On: 11-16-2005 @ 00:14:18     Reply | Top | Edit
i dont think it matters how the car is paid for. i didnt pay for a cent of my car, i dont pay for gas or insurance. you have no idea how grateful i am for this car. i was living in italy, you cant get a job there if you are underraged. i moved back here like last summer and didnt have time to get a job because school was starting and i was still getting settled in and stuff. my parents wouldnt have bought me the car if they thought i didnt deserve it, trust me. there are plenty of people on here who bought their own cars who are complete douchebags.

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Posted By: RedScreaminMachine On: 11-16-2005 @ 07:41:35     Reply | Top | Edit
The only time I care if someone didn't buy their own car is when they have a "look what I have and you don't" attitude. No one should have that kind of attitude, but especially if dad bought the car. Otherwise, who cares how they got it? There's no separate racing classes at the track for people who payed for their own cars and for people who were given their cars. At the end of the day did you win more or lose less because the guy in the other lane was given their car by their father, etc?
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Ram Air Scoop, SLP Lid, K&N Filter, Smooth Bellow, Borla Exhaust, Dynatech Long Tube Headers, High-Flow Cats, BMR Adjustable Torque Arm, BMR Rear Lower Control Arms, Nitto Drag Radials; 344 RWHP @ 5350 RPM, and 356 RWTQ @ 4650 RPM; new mods: 3.73 gears, FAST 78mm TB, SPEC 3 Clutch, Pro 5.0 Shifter; new time: 12.51 @ 114.2 mph, 1.82 60'

Posted By: number1 On: 11-16-2005 @ 09:40:17     Reply | Top | Edit


Too funny.

To answer your question RoAdRaGe912,

I have LT4 Hotcam, LT4 ported intake, AFR heads, 1.6 RR, LTCC ignition and pretty much every other bolt on. Meizere HD WP, CFDF clutch, fidanza flywheel. My car is silver and has cobra R rims.
I used to live on here, now I work two jobs and commute an hour and a half to school. I'm trying to keep in touch though.



Posted By: RoAdRaGe912 On: 11-16-2005 @ 14:56:15     Reply | Top | Edit
i knew it
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Posted By: number1 On: 11-16-2005 @ 20:04:02     Reply | Top | Edit
double post
[ Edited on 11/16/2005 @ 20:04:38 ]

Posted By: number1 On: 11-16-2005 @ 20:04:09     Reply | Top | Edit
Thanks.

And I double that.

Posted By: stevethepirate On: 11-16-2005 @ 21:03:37     Reply | Top | Edit
nice car

im trying to figure out the rims though
lower it maybe?

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Posted By: RoAdRaGe912 On: 11-16-2005 @ 21:53:22     Reply | Top | Edit
says the person with a v6. some people have these cars to actually go fast with.

i bet you're wondering what that tank is doing behind his car
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Posted By: stevethepirate On: 11-17-2005 @ 00:13:48     Reply | Top | Edit
HEY! i can go fast too... it just takes me a while to get up to those speeds!
tank an air compressor?

like, the wheels just looked really weird, like they are big, but the car is high, so theres a lot of space. dunno, all i was saying was about the looks, not performance or any of that other overrated shit
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Posted By: RedScreaminMachine On: 11-17-2005 @ 07:48:57     Reply | Top | Edit
Not a compressor. It's just a tank that holds compressed air.

The rims look good in back, but do they stick past the fender in front?
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Ram Air Scoop, SLP Lid, K&N Filter, Smooth Bellow, Borla Exhaust, Dynatech Long Tube Headers, High-Flow Cats, BMR Adjustable Torque Arm, BMR Rear Lower Control Arms, Nitto Drag Radials; 344 RWHP @ 5350 RPM, and 356 RWTQ @ 4650 RPM; new mods: 3.73 gears, FAST 78mm TB, SPEC 3 Clutch, Pro 5.0 Shifter; new time: 12.51 @ 114.2 mph, 1.82 60'
[ Edited on 11/17/2005 @ 07:49:18 ]

Posted By: number1 On: 11-17-2005 @ 09:03:22     Reply | Top | Edit
They actually tuck in front, the rear hits a little on the outer lip which I should be able to fixed with an adj. panhard bar.(left side only) I will lower the car sooner or later, in those pictures, I was at an autoX, which the car does very well in, on DOT race tires, stock suspension, and a lot of motor work. The problem I have is running in a race class. I got my ass kicked by a 400 horse STI with a full suspension and full race tires.

And the tank is for compressed air. You change the tire PSI a lot at any track to find the optimal pressure. So that is why I had it. Damn sixxers.

J/K pirate steve

Posted By: stevethepirate On: 11-17-2005 @ 09:42:51     Reply | Top | Edit
i originally said it looked more like a tank than a compressor, but i couldnt thik of what it would hold.

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Posted By: blck89rs On: 11-17-2005 @ 14:23:37     Reply | Top | Edit
someone said my car looks ugly with skinnies and slicks
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Posted By: RedScreaminMachine On: 11-17-2005 @ 18:45:45     Reply | Top | Edit
The only car's that look ugly with skinnies and slicks are wrong wheel drive cars, lol.
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Ram Air Scoop, SLP Lid, K&N Filter, Smooth Bellow, Borla Exhaust, Dynatech Long Tube Headers, High-Flow Cats, BMR Adjustable Torque Arm, BMR Rear Lower Control Arms, Nitto Drag Radials; 344 RWHP @ 5350 RPM, and 356 RWTQ @ 4650 RPM; new mods: 3.73 gears, FAST 78mm TB, SPEC 3 Clutch, Pro 5.0 Shifter; new time: 12.51 @ 114.2 mph, 1.82 60'

Posted By: blck89rs On: 11-17-2005 @ 21:37:38     Reply | Top | Edit
very true
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