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1993 Ford lightning
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17andCrazy
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03-07-2010 @ 11:51:02 Reply | Edit
thing is pretty much built to hell. 351W with everything except for a supercharger, heads, or bottom end. running about a 200 shot now.
history: ran a 13.5 @ 101 with 150 shot and dynoed 335 rwhp and 440 rwtq. this was before he upgraded to a 200 shot, his DR's, stall, and fuel mods. he is hoping for a 12 second pass now
i dont need to explain much other then the first race was to 80 mph and there wasnt any room, so i let off at the end of 2nd:
http://videos.streetfire.net/player.aspx?fileid=C74E5F80-6FEB-4940-8FA0-7EBD68B42A82
2nd video we got a light. no i wasnt trying to jump, but i had to rev to launch and had the clutch in on a hill, i was rolling slowly without choice. that race i passed him at about 110 to 115, probably let off around 120. i also missed 3rd gear which is why i fell back like i did. but f*ck it, i kept going afterwards. too bad there was a curve in the road (cant tell cuz of camera angle, but the end of the race was the end of the curve, i was on the outside... boo ). all in all, i hope i can run him at 14.5 psi now instead of 12 like these races were at (long story, boost gauge was broken, couldnt change boost).
http://videos.streetfire.net/player.aspx?fileid=407E9767-C585-4F05-96C5-891EB60401CC
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 http://www.cardomain.com/id/93lt1 [ Edited on 09/27/2005 @ 11:52:32 ]
Posted By:
ChazGotAZ28
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09-27-2005 @ 14:39:09 Reply | Top | Edit
The vid's say it was a 95 and that your turbos are stock?? I thought you had after market turbos in there. Anyways cool race man. --
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Posted By:
17andCrazy
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09-27-2005 @ 14:51:12 Reply | Top | Edit
i posted it as a 95 cuz i thought it was a 95. but he told me it was a 93 after i uploaded those and i cant change them now.
and no i dont have upgraded turbos. all i have is a $50 boost controller and a K&N air filter for performance mods.
nobody thinks a heavy ass V6 can move --
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Posted By:
ChazGotAZ28
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09-28-2005 @ 01:19:57 Reply | Top | Edit
Cool man for some reason I always get you confused with the guy that claimed he was pushing more than 500 HP outta his car because he got some after market turbo's and a boost controller. I can't remeber his screen name but I remeber he had a stealth. --
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Posted By:
hurley_21_07
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09-28-2005 @ 01:29:36 Reply | Top | Edit
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Posted By:
ChazGotAZ28
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09-28-2005 @ 04:55:59 Reply | Top | Edit
Yep that's the guy, I remeber that he made a thread that got to like a billion replies and he was agruing that his car should be killing Vipers and Z06's, it was pretty funny stuff. --
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Posted By:
17andCrazy
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09-28-2005 @ 19:17:37 Reply | Top | Edit
well technically he wasnt far off.
exhaust (full) + more boost + free intake = 400 flywheel horses. 100 horses isnt hard to extract out of these cars.
to get to 500 you need new turbos.
he has 15G turbos which are a HELL of a lot bigger then the stock 9b's. think of it this way... a 16G turbo is what comes stock in a SRT4 and those are EASY to get into 12's. now, imagine having TWO of those turbos AND a V6. 500 horses is not out of the question. how do you think supras put down 1000 whp? it surely isnt their displacement.
the only problem is with added air you need added fuel, so toss in an extra $500 for fuel mods ($80 fuel pump, $350 injectors) on top of the turbo costs ($500 a turbo).
a 500 horse stealth could take a 450 horse viper, and can surely take a 405 horse Z06. and yes, the V6 makes a lot of torque, it isnt just HP, so dont claim that the V10 and V8 have more twist. a BPU (basic parts upgrade - exhaust, boost, intake) stealth will dyno anywhere from 300 to 310 horses and 325 to 340 tq. --
 http://www.cardomain.com/id/93lt1 [ Edited on 09/28/2005 @ 19:22:51 ]
Posted By:
17andCrazy
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09-28-2005 @ 19:27:25 Reply | Top | Edit
$50 - boost controller
$50 - intake
$50 - boost gauge
$310 - downpipe + gutted precats
$150 - exhaust cutout in place of main cat
$350 - injectors
$80 - fuel pump
$1000 - 15G turbos
TOTAL -- $2040 to raise the car 200 horses.
for $500 the car will be raised about 100 horses. if i remember right you cant even get a 100 shot nitrous kit for a LT1/LS1 for $500. i could be wrong. dont most LS1 people spend about $2000 for full exhaust?
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Posted By:
DJ_B_Howie
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09-28-2005 @ 20:56:34 Reply | Top | Edit
slightly off topic--- don't the R/T's have 4-wheel steering? Do you even notice it? Just curious  --
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Posted By:
17andCrazy
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09-28-2005 @ 21:15:08 Reply | Top | Edit
yeah they have 4 wheel steering, 4wd, active exhaust and active suspension.
you cannot feel 4ws, i think i am going to take it out one of these days unless it barely weighs anything. it only works after like 32 mph and is made for safe highspeed lane changes (autoban type stuff). the car is called the 3000GT for a reason... 3.0L grand touring car. made for long trips, not too much of a sports car.
active exhaust is gay. cant hear the difference at all though i CAN hear the valve moving when i hit the button. again, just added weight.
active suspension you can feel and is kinda cool. unless you know the car you cannot feel it. but it does make it stiff/softer. i dont know if it helps handling, but im sure it does a bit.
4wd you can obviously feel
too many gimic devices on this car. if i took them all out i'd maybe be down to about 3500 lbs (including AC which already doesnt work). ill get down to a 4th gen fbody weight soon enough!!  --
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Posted By:
fabgmc4me
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09-28-2005 @ 23:40:36 Reply | Top | Edit
Nice races.
What do you think/know your car does in the Quarter Mile? Just Curious.
Cool car though. --

Posted By:
ChazGotAZ28
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09-29-2005 @ 00:11:54 Reply | Top | Edit
Not to start a flame thread but you sound just like the other thread just spouting numbers with no actual back up. I know that those cars can be made to be fast but flywheel horses don't all make it to the ground and with them being 4 whell drive or AWD however you want to call it your gonna get more drivetrain loss than a RWD car. Also not every stealth or 3000GT is gonna respond with 100 extra ponies with just exhaust intake and more boost. --
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Posted By:
17andCrazy
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09-29-2005 @ 11:57:09 Reply | Top | Edit
should run a low 13, possibly high 12.
what kind of backup do you want? i could post links? pics? i dont know whats enough proof.
and i took drivetrain loss into account... 25%. if you make 400 flywheel horses, you will make about 300 at the wheels. i stated all that.
no not all will recieve extra 100 ponies. some get more. the only ones that wont get 100 ponies are the ones that are in poor running condition. its a proven fact that a 150 shot of nitrous makes 150 horses, or more. its the same with cars. you can guestimate enough to have a general idea. everyone on this site claims "what kind of performance can i see with 3.73's over my 2.73's?" ... "usually .2 to .3 seconds off the 1/4 mile". its the same situation. i could get links, pics, etc if you wanted but i guess you'd just have to take my word for it as it stands right meow. i guess i dont understand why it sounds far fetched.  --
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Posted By:
ChazGotAZ28
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09-29-2005 @ 12:51:47 Reply | Top | Edit
Well links to dyno graphs before and after would be helpful, but you are correct that it's just a generalization. Also I've never seen a stealth or 3000GT that was ever that fast and there is a fairly large community of them here in AZ. Also if you have 4WD would the drivetrain loss be more like 30%, if in that case a 500HP stealth would not really be able to handle a Viper or Z06, both of which are now at 500 HP --
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Posted By:
17andCrazy
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09-29-2005 @ 23:58:40 Reply | Top | Edit
ehh, drivetrain loss is about 25%. and no a 500 horse stealth wouldnt be able to take a 05 viper or 06 Z06 (or wahtever year it is)... but common, they are brand new cars! my car is 1991, built in 1990. both of those cars have 15 years of evolution... plus price tags six or seven times as high.
ill see what i can do about those dyno graphs --
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Posted By:
ChazGotAZ28
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09-30-2005 @ 02:13:46 Reply | Top | Edit
Cool man, and you're right about them having 15 years on you, but that doesn't stop you from trying does it. I know that when my car is all said and done it should be in the 11's, right now I'm sure that I can hit mid to low 12's too, so I've got some work to do to catch a new Viper or Z06 myself. --
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Posted By:
17andCrazy
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10-02-2005 @ 00:10:28 Reply | Top | Edit
I have not had a lot of time to look, but i will find some more. here is one with a BPU setup:
Name: Dave Black
Model: 1995 3000GT VR4
Approx. Flywheel HP: 400hp
Modifications:
Basic BPU setup:
K&N FIPK
Borla Exhaust
Apexi S-AVCR @ 1.0 bar (14.7 psi)
Greddy Type-S BOV
Stock precats
Stock cat
Comments: 3rd gear pull from 2500rpm. Boost set @ 1.0 bar
Horsepower: 304.1 @ the wheels
Second Run:
Comments: 3rd gear pull from 2500rpm. Boost set @ 1.0 bar - same as first run
Horsepower: 305.4 @ the wheels
Then there is this guy with nothing more then "fuel mods" and a little bit larger turbos (obviously the fuel mods add no hp). these turbos are a little smaller then the 15G's iceman has:
Name: Ahmed Alquaryshi
Model: 1992 3000GT VR4
Approx. Flywheel HP: 470hp
Settings: Boost @ 17psi
Modifications:
K&N FIPK
Borla cat-back exhaust
Alamo Downpipe
Greddy Profec B boost controller @ 17 psi
GTPro 357 Turbos
Apex'i sequential BOV
550cc injectors
Apexi S-AFC
HKS fuel pump
No precats
Hi-flow cat
Comments: Ahmed had EGT's that read in the range of 900°C.
Horsepower: 375.7 @ the wheels
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Posted By:
ChazGotAZ28
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10-02-2005 @ 16:48:34 Reply | Top | Edit
Dude what is up with the torque that's insane!!! Also thanks for the dyno sheets that's awesome bro  --
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17andCrazy
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10-02-2005 @ 16:53:28 Reply | Top | Edit
i dont think they had the torque right. there is no way they are making 800+ torque --
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Posted By:
ChazGotAZ28
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10-02-2005 @ 16:59:44 Reply | Top | Edit
I thought that it might have had something to due with the fact that the car was AWD. --
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Posted By:
17andCrazy
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10-02-2005 @ 18:10:14 Reply | Top | Edit
maybe, maybe not --
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Posted By:
fabgmc4me
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10-03-2005 @ 17:05:46 Reply | Top | Edit
"17andCrazy" What do you have done to your car?
I thought stock 91-92 Stealth Turbos only ran low 14's in the quarter Mile.
You must have quite a few things done to be in the low 13's, high 12's. --

Posted By:
17andCrazy
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10-04-2005 @ 00:50:10 Reply | Top | Edit
it doesnt take much to get a turbo car a lot faster. it will take me a hell of a lot to run 10's, but that isnt my goal.
and they run about a 13.8 @ 100 stock... just a bit faster then a stock LT1 cuz of the AWD. like ive said before, a boost controller alone will bring the car up 55 horses (flywheel horses). --
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Posted By:
number1
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10-04-2005 @ 11:54:37 Reply | Top | Edit
Easy into the 12's moderate into the 11's. 10's is major coin.
I know 3rd gear isn't 1:1, and the first guy dynoed both runs in 3rd? I thought Mustang dyno's take MPH into account, but can they adjust for that?
Posted By:
17andCrazy
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10-04-2005 @ 11:58:00 Reply | Top | Edit
i would sure hope so... cuz not every car is 1:1... and what if they have dif rear end gears...
if they couldnt adjust for that, then i wouldnt ever even think about going there to dyno --
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Posted By:
dru440
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10-04-2005 @ 12:59:44 Reply | Top | Edit
im buyin a tt rt for a second car, i always have liked them -- 04 Competition Orange Cobra 1 of 281
best time 60 1.76 1/4 11.708 mph 119.55
Posted By:
IcemanTT
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10-08-2005 @ 01:49:10 Reply | Top | Edit
My links didn't count when I was trying to prove myself, eh?
K&N FIPK
Borla cat-back exhaust
Alamo Downpipe
Greddy Profec B boost controller @ 17 psi
GTPro 357 Turbos
Apex'i sequential BOV
550cc injectors
Apexi S-AFC
HKS fuel pump
No precats
Hi-flow cat
Thank you for that, as my mods are better and finally prove my car is what I said it was. Not that I car, it has a spun rod bearing, but it is what I said it was.
No less than 500 horsepower :-) -- 1991 Dodge Stealth R/T 3.0 DOHC 24-Valve Twin Turbo Pearl White
TD04-15G Turbos, 550cc injectors, 255lph Walbro fuel pump (hotwired), Manual Boost Controller, Intake, Custom True Dual Exhaust (No Mufflers/No Cats), Ross 8.5:1 Forged Pistons, Apexi S-AFC, Intrax Springs, Drilled and Slotted Rotors, and more...
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IcemanTT
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10-08-2005 @ 01:51:14 Reply | Top | Edit
17andcrazy, you need to get some fuel mods and some cheap turbos from somewhere. Get some 16G's off a couple of old talons. Cheap power! -- 1991 Dodge Stealth R/T 3.0 DOHC 24-Valve Twin Turbo Pearl White
TD04-15G Turbos, 550cc injectors, 255lph Walbro fuel pump (hotwired), Manual Boost Controller, Intake, Custom True Dual Exhaust (No Mufflers/No Cats), Ross 8.5:1 Forged Pistons, Apexi S-AFC, Intrax Springs, Drilled and Slotted Rotors, and more...
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17andCrazy
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10-08-2005 @ 03:15:24 Reply | Top | Edit
255 is at home right now, i would have it in, but it got there late. ill be installing it a week from sunday. i might rewire then as well. then ill be getting a DP and exhaust cutout and keep the stock exhaust. hopefully hit over 400 ponies. --
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Posted By:
IcemanTT
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10-08-2005 @ 08:52:05 Reply | Top | Edit
A downpipe REALLY wakes up the twin turbo models. The stock one is very restrictive. That cut out will be wild, too. -- 1991 Dodge Stealth R/T 3.0 DOHC 24-Valve Twin Turbo Pearl White
TD04-15G Turbos, 550cc injectors, 255lph Walbro fuel pump (hotwired), Manual Boost Controller, Intake, Custom True Dual Exhaust (No Mufflers/No Cats), Ross 8.5:1 Forged Pistons, Apexi S-AFC, Intrax Springs, Drilled and Slotted Rotors, and more...
Posted By:
17andCrazy
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10-08-2005 @ 12:03:12 Reply | Top | Edit
ive heard they only add about 8 horses or so to the flywheel? but everyone says it really wakes them up. guess i wont be disapointed... --
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Posted By:
IcemanTT
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10-10-2005 @ 23:09:52 Reply | Top | Edit
Are you thinking of upgrading your turbos, soon? -- 1991 Dodge Stealth R/T 3.0 DOHC 24-Valve Twin Turbo Pearl White TD04-15G Turbos, 550cc injectors, 255lph Walbro fuel pump (hotwired), Manual Boost Controller, Intake, Custom True Dual Exhaust (No Mufflers/No Cats), Ross 8.5:1 Forged Pistons, Apexi S-AFC, Intrax Springs, Drilled and Slotted Rotors, and more... [ Edited on 10/10/2005 @ 23:11:43 ]
Posted By:
17andCrazy
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10-11-2005 @ 14:10:31 Reply | Top | Edit
Probably not anytime soon. I need other things first...
Clutch - $1000
fuel controller - $500?
injectors - $450
Some other form of transportaion in case the 3/S breaks - $1500?
exhaust - $500
turbos - $1000
so I'm about $5000 away from getting turbos on the car... which is fine i guess, just takes some time to save when i have to pay for school, insurance, gas, rent, utilities, random things, etc. --
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