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1997 Formula LT4 Firehawk against Stock WS6 02 TA. Posted By: 95ramairformula On: 05-12-2008 @ 22:50:19 Reply | Edit Car is a 1997 true LT4 Firehawk M6, this car hauls for a stock unmodified car. Instead of "ram air" it says "330 hp" My friends 02 WS6 M6 says he can still beat it. I have rode in both and the LT4 pulls harder all through the RPM range. The Firehawk has 90k on it. LS1's, I think it will be a good race since both are M6's. If the Firehawk gets out in front from the start. I don't think the LS1 will be able to catch it. But its anybody race with a manual. This firehawk has some punch! The guy who owns the the Firehawk says he can barely pull on a 03 Cobra from a 40 mph roll on to about 120. Then they both let off. He said he beats stock LS1 vettes on the street. Sometimes they are a close race and others he walks away. He said that he raced a Z06 (405Hp) and the guy pulled him by a half a car to 100. Anybody know the specs of the LT4 Firehawk in the 1/4. Topend they are over 160mph. I had no idea that a LT4 ran this good. What do you think?  -- 1979 TA 400,4-speed,Qjet,Performer intake,6X4 heads, CC268H cam, Hooker Super Comp 1 3/4 Long tube headers,3.73's http://members.cardomain.com/formulalt1 
 SOLDPosted By: TransAm52804 On: 04-05-2005 @ 23:25:19 Reply | Top | Edit Hmmmm, seems kinda scetchy IMO. LT4's are great engines, but IMO they were between the LT1 and LS1. Maybe he's got a freak or something. All I can really say is wait for the race outcome for the real answer. -- '98 Trans Am WS6 M6  Whisper Lid | K&N Air Filter | FRA | Descreened MAF | !Baffles | B&M Ripper Shifter | !CAGS | SLP LoudMouth Catback | Cross-Drilled/Slotted Rotors F/R | PBR/Axxis Brake Pads F/R...
*1/4 Mile Best: 13.300 @ 107.12 m.p.h. / 60': 2.110* '90 Silver Isuzu Pickup M5 (Ohhh yeah, it's a beast  )
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 -- Pics and Specs 531RWHP/477RWTQ Only bolt ons! ...technically everything used a bolt to install GREENBIRD IS A LIAR! PUT UP OR SHUT UP! Posted By: LightningquickLS1 On: 04-05-2005 @ 08:05:05 Reply | Top | Edit From what I have seen a true LT4 should walk a stock LS1 pretty easily (not destroy, but they will definitely pull). But like you said with a manual in cars with similar power it is a drivers race so let it happen and wait for the outcome. -- Creator of the Largest (Thread was finally locked at 430+ replies, 10,400+ views  ) Fastest Growing (Up for 5-6 days) and Furthest reaching Thread (spread to over 67 other known websites) EVER posted on Fbody.com. 
99'Trans Am M6. Red w/Silver Metallic Blackbird stripes. WS6 Functional Ram Air Hood/Airbox, LS1 Motorsports Lid, K&N Filter, Descreened MAF, Borla SS Catback, Spec Stage III clutch, Mcleod Adjustable Master Cylinder, GM 01-02 Slave Cylinder, Restrictor "Drill mod", LS1 motorsports bellow, FTRA, MSD 8.5MM's, NGK-TR55s, BMR LCAs, BMR Polished STB, BMR Boxed SC's, SLP Bilstein Shocks, Factory Hurst shifter w/Lous Short Stick, Powerslot Pro-Stop Dimpled/Slotted Rotors w/Hawks, Viper 790V 2-Way Paging System Alarm, and Chrome 17'Antera's with Falken Beta FK-451s 
Posted By: RedScreaminMachine On: 04-05-2005 @ 19:08:53 Reply | Top | Edit Car for car, I'd say he'd be even at best with an LS1. I doubt an LT4 fbody would trap better than 106mph and we all know of LS1 doing better than that (however, there are ones doing worse as well although they are usually auto's). I'd say on average it'd be pretty even. I find it hard to beleive that a stock LT4 fbody could pull on an 03 Cobra from any kind of roll (360 RWHP anyone?). I'd believe he beat/tied the Vette's if most of the races were from a stop. The Z06 I think would have beaten him be more unless it was from a stop and he got out in front. I've seen a Z06 trap 118mph and I know for a fact that that's enough to put him under...unless his car isn't really stock. -- Red 2002 Camaro Z28 M6 with Hurst shifter, T-tops, Leather, 12 CD Changer Ram Air Scoop, SLP Lid, K&N Filter, Smooth Bellow, and Borla Exhaust; 332 RWHP @ 5450 RPM, and 347 RWTQ @ 4500 RPM Posted By: 95ramairformula On: 04-05-2005 @ 21:00:58 Reply | Top | Edit I'll keep you all posted. The race should happen soon. -- 1979 TA 400,4-speed,Qjet,Performer intake,6X4 heads, CC268H cam, Hooker Super Comp 1 3/4 Long tube headers,3.73's http://members.cardomain.com/formulalt1
SOLDPosted By: 1BADDAM On: 04-05-2005 @ 02:14:11 Reply | Top | Edit LT4's dyno right about the same as an average LS1 a few HP/TQ less, with this fact and manual transmissions = drivers race. My old man's LT4 Vette has a lot of low end torque. Even though it has balls it won't hang with a well driven 03 Cobra especially from a roll. My TTA eats him for breakfast, especially from a roll. -- 89 TA 3.8 LC2 Snake- the other white meat Posted By: LightningquickLS1 On: 04-05-2005 @ 10:21:17 Reply | Top | Edit  I love that line in your sig, "Snake, the other white meat"
Thats great.  (Although in my car its not even close to true yet if we are talking about the new Cobras.  ) -- Creator of the Largest (Thread was finally locked at 430+ replies, 10,400+ views ) Fastest Growing (Up for 5-6 days) and Furthest reaching Thread (spread to over 67 other known websites) EVER posted on Fbody.com.
99'Trans Am M6. Red w/Silver Metallic Blackbird stripes. WS6 Functional Ram Air Hood/Airbox, LS1 Motorsports Lid, K&N Filter, Descreened MAF, Borla SS Catback, Spec Stage III clutch, Mcleod Adjustable Master Cylinder, GM 01-02 Slave Cylinder, Restrictor "Drill mod", LS1 motorsports bellow, FTRA, MSD 8.5MM's, NGK-TR55s, BMR LCAs, BMR Polished STB, BMR Boxed SC's, SLP Bilstein Shocks, Factory Hurst shifter w/Lous Short Stick, Powerslot Pro-Stop Dimpled/Slotted Rotors w/Hawks, Viper 790V 2-Way Paging System Alarm, and Chrome 17'Antera's with Falken Beta FK-451s
Posted By: RedScreaminMachine On: 04-05-2005 @ 18:22:35 Reply | Top | Edit Yeah, I hear that. Those new Cobras are damn fast, especially from a roll. -- Red 2002 Camaro Z28 M6 with Hurst shifter, T-tops, Leather, 12 CD Changer Ram Air Scoop, SLP Lid, K&N Filter, Smooth Bellow, and Borla Exhaust; 332 RWHP @ 5450 RPM, and 347 RWTQ @ 4500 RPM Posted By: Z28LT1Ski On: 04-05-2005 @ 18:43:34 Reply | Top | Edit LT4's dyno in between 300-310 rwhp and about 320 rwtq, plus they have great top end (horsepower peak at 5800 rpm) but I doubt they can hang with Cobra's. I'll believe everything else. Should be a very close race. BTW LT4 F-bodies range from 13.2-13.8 in the 1/4 --  
1995 Camaro Z28 A4 - Pacesetter LT's, Accel 300+, Taylor OVC Wire Kit, GM 3.73's, Eaton Posi, ZL2 Style Hood from US Exotics, SLP CAI, Flowmaster Catback, PCM4Less, LT4 KM, TB Bypass, Airfoil, Relocated IAT, Vortech Elbow, Ported & Descreened MAF, and a pair of Hookers on the back! "I don't need a female's endless drama in my life. I get enough of that from my car's SES light." - AssbreezePosted By: hot_red_z28 On: 04-05-2005 @ 12:19:35 Reply | Top | Edit i'd call BS on the cobra pulling and even on the ls1 vette races... I think he'd also have interesting time with 01-02 ls1's... The only c5 I ever race in my LT1 I beat, and I only had headers, exhaust and a couple bolt ons at the time... that doesn't mean I had a faster car, nor that I could do it again... it just means i happened to pull that one out of my ass... --  Posted By: RedScreaminMachine On: 04-05-2005 @ 18:19:43 Reply | Top | Edit It's possible for the Vettes to lose. They seem to be finicky cars. I've seen some great times out of them, but also some crappy times. I think the independant rear may have something to do with it. -- Red 2002 Camaro Z28 M6 with Hurst shifter, T-tops, Leather, 12 CD Changer Ram Air Scoop, SLP Lid, K&N Filter, Smooth Bellow, and Borla Exhaust; 332 RWHP @ 5450 RPM, and 347 RWTQ @ 4500 RPM Posted By: 95ramairformula On: 04-05-2005 @ 20:50:44 Reply | Top | Edit I do beleive the guy with the firehawk barely pulling a 03 Cobra  Everyone acts like the 03 Cobra is a god. I have alot of respect for them, and with a pulley upgrade they are wicked fast. Remember anything is possible in a street race. I stayed ahead of a 2002 LS1 M6 car a couple years ago from a 60 mph roll on with my LT1, we raced to 100 and I had him by a half a car. Maybe he had the car in the wrong gear. He was surprised and so was I. All I can say it happened. I have lost my share of races to LS1's and also won my share with my 95 LT1.
I rode in this 97 LT4 Firehawk and it pulls like there is no tomorrow. I have also rode in the 02 Ws6 TA and it pulls damn good, but the LT4 feels stronger. The race should happen this weekend, if the weather permits. -- 1979 TA 400,4-speed,Qjet,Performer intake,6X4 heads, CC268H cam, Hooker Super Comp 1 3/4 Long tube headers,3.73's http://members.cardomain.com/formulalt1
SOLDPosted By: RedScreaminMachine On: 04-05-2005 @ 20:30:12 Reply | Top | Edit If he really beat the 03 Cobra, then either he's not stock or the Stang driver really messed up. -- Red 2002 Camaro Z28 M6 with Hurst shifter, T-tops, Leather, 12 CD Changer Ram Air Scoop, SLP Lid, K&N Filter, Smooth Bellow, and Borla Exhaust; 332 RWHP @ 5450 RPM, and 347 RWTQ @ 4500 RPM Posted By: gen3ta On: 04-05-2005 @ 20:47:15 Reply | Top | Edit knowing both types of cars i feel the win is in the lt4,but if the ls1 has a cam upgrade and tuning the ls1 will win....my money is on the lt4! -- 96 z28 m6,slp 1-3/4,custom y pipe,nx kit,typical mods,c5 vette wheels,plenty more to come. 83 s10,tubbed,355 Lt1 intake,t-76 turbo 95 z28,has just become a race car Posted By: ryguy_45832 On: 04-05-2005 @ 21:20:06 Reply | Top | Edit i'd go with the ls1 -- http://www.fbody.com/timeslips/member.cgi?id=866 13.0@109 (still tweaking) Posted By: raven97 On: 04-05-2005 @ 21:17:28 Reply | Top | Edit my 97 ws6 used to pull stock ls1's -- 97 formula ws-6, m6 hooker supercomp lt's, accel extreme 9000's ngk plugs currently being upgraded can we say lt4? Posted By: ZFan88 On: 04-05-2005 @ 23:37:11 Reply | Top | Edit how bout we quit postin about who will win until we see the results of the race -- I have an 88 305 right now but am currently saving (halfway there) for an sts rear mount turbo for a 96-97 Z that I will buy when i get back from deployment Posted By: RedScreaminMachine On: 04-05-2005 @ 23:44:09 Reply | Top | Edit raven97, is that when it was stock? -- Red 2002 Camaro Z28 M6 with Hurst shifter, T-tops, Leather, 12 CD Changer Ram Air Scoop, SLP Lid, K&N Filter, Smooth Bellow, and Borla Exhaust; 332 RWHP @ 5450 RPM, and 347 RWTQ @ 4500 RPM Posted By: DarthD On: 10-21-2005 @ 05:06:56 Reply | Top | Edit Stock for stock it would be very close. Posted By: RedScreaminMachine On: 10-21-2005 @ 07:20:41 Reply | Top | Edit LOL, this is an old post. -- Red 2002 Camaro Z28 M6 with Hurst shifter, T-tops, Leather, 12 CD Changer Ram Air Scoop, SLP Lid, K&N Filter, Smooth Bellow, Borla Exhaust, Dynatech Long Tube Headers, High-Flow Cats, TB bypass, BMR Adjustable Torque Arm, BMR Rear Lower Control Arms, Nitto Drag Radials; 344 RWHP @ 5350 RPM, and 356 RWTQ @ 4650 RPM; 12.55 @ 111.5 mph with a 1.92 60' Posted By: 30th6 On: 10-22-2005 @ 18:27:59 Reply | Top | Edit do all firhawks have lt4's in em because i rode in one and it was slow. -- 97z28 30th aniv. white&orange m6 74k mods-SLP cai,p&p maf,Magnaflow muffler,hooker LT's, 160 thermostat,with homemade fan switches, skip shift eliminater,ls1 drive shaft,b&m shifter,4:10's,and a 125 wet shot. Posted By: RedScreaminMachine On: 10-24-2005 @ 20:23:24 Reply | Top | Edit No, most have LT1's and the new ones have LS1's. Only a few came with the LT4, but I'm not sure how many. -- Red 2002 Camaro Z28 M6 with Hurst shifter, T-tops, Leather, 12 CD Changer Ram Air Scoop, SLP Lid, K&N Filter, Smooth Bellow, Borla Exhaust, Dynatech Long Tube Headers, High-Flow Cats, TB bypass, BMR Adjustable Torque Arm, BMR Rear Lower Control Arms, Nitto Drag Radials; 344 RWHP @ 5350 RPM, and 356 RWTQ @ 4650 RPM; 12.55 @ 111.5 mph with a 1.92 60'; new mods: 3.73 gears, FAST 78mm TB Posted By: Z28LT1Ski On: 10-24-2005 @ 23:50:50 Reply | Top | Edit only 29 Firehawks came with the LT4. And I wish I had one. -- 
1995 Camaro Z28 A4 - Boltons 1995 Grand Am GT M5 - DD Posted By: slow95camaro On: 04-17-2006 @ 04:15:27 Reply | Top | Edit Didnt sone of the ss's come with lt4's too? I think I remember reading something about that somewhere. If I find the link I will post it. -- 95 Camaro z28, M6, jet hot lts, highflow cat, CAI, hypertech, cross drilled sloted rotors. Posted By: RedScreaminMachine On: 04-17-2006 @ 07:26:05 Reply | Top | Edit Yes, but this is a really old post...again. -- Red 2002 Camaro Z28 Couple Mods  Posted By: RS31 On: 04-17-2006 @ 12:44:12 Reply | Top | Edit i love playing with old, dead threads... --  Posted By: hak698 On: 01-23-2008 @ 23:49:21 Reply | Top | Edit Lt4 is GM's LT1 Hot Rod engine. They are the only second generation Chevy small block heads with increased hieght on the intake runners, so no your carbureted intake will not fit on them. They will only work with the special LT4 intake with FI. They also came with a special high lift cam, and headers, and a bigger throttle body. GM racing still sells the complete lit for your LT1 for about $2500.00 Posted By: hak698 On: 01-23-2008 @ 23:55:25 Reply | Top | Edit What everyone seems to be leaving out is the driver. It does make a difference. A Cobra with a pump, (supercharger) that is set up right can run in the elevens, but I saw one get beat with an LS1 Camaro with two pumps, and a lot of other mods like catback, heads, cam, throttle body, ect. Posted By: RedScreaminMachine On: 01-24-2008 @ 13:29:01 Reply | Top | Edit Why is this thread back at the top? LOL -- Red 2002 Camaro Z28 M6 Couple Mods Posted By: IcemanTT On: 03-05-2008 @ 08:53:30 Reply | Top | Edit I guess the LS1 went down and... well, everyone knows how you guys are about LS1's... so no one ever posted back. -- 1991 Dodge Stealth R/T 3.0 DOHC 24-Valve Twin Turbo Pearl White TD04-15G Turbos, 550cc injectors, 255lph Walbro fuel pump (hotwired), Manual Boost Controller, Intake, Custom True Dual Exhaust (No Mufflers/No Cats), Ross 8.5:1 Forged Pistons, Apexi S-AFC, Intrax Springs, Drilled and Slotted Rotors, Spun Rod Bearing Mod Stage IV (Hey, Everyone's Doin' It :-P) Posted By: ExtinctWS6 On: 03-23-2008 @ 00:11:05 Reply | Top | Edit lol My Caps Lock Button Is Broken --  Posted By: CATransam On: 04-01-2008 @ 22:03:05 Reply | Top | Edit so who won (yes i know its an old post) -- 04 Lemans Blue Corvette Z06 "No way dude...i saw an LS6 fight godzilla and the LS6 beat godzilla and it looked in the air and was like what do you think of that god? And god was like bring it bitch, so they fought and the LS6 beat god and now the LS6 is god because its the greatest thing ever" what I once thought was, is now no more.
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