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Purist Question Posted By: Reaper 
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05-26-2008 @ 13:37:25 Reply | Edit
Ok I was wondering how you guys felt about messing with a limited production car. I have a 1996 WS6 car number 27 of 2051 made. What I was thinking was LS1 conversion... I mean complete Front end and drivetrain. I really hate to do it to a limited car but I really want an LS1. I've been such a purist that I've never even drilled and extra hole in this car even with the 383 I put in its still the original engine. Also the car has only 28,000 miles on it. I can't sell it to buy another car cause I have too much money tied up in this one to even bother selling. What would you guys do? -- 
unlike the song you WILL fear the Reaper !! Rick Speed Posted By: armyof1 On: 05-26-2008 @ 13:47:11 Reply | Top | Edit I would save up, and then buy a cheap LS1. They are going cheap enough that buy the time you buy fenders, hood, bumper, an LS1, and everything to do the conversion you would spend ABOUT the same, and you wouldn't be messing with a limited car. --  Posted By: crunkmaro
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05-26-2008 @ 13:48:06 Reply | Top | Edit
ill trade you for my car??? -- i rock. Posted By: assbreeze On: 05-26-2008 @ 13:50:15 Reply | Top | Edit Why even bother? It's going to take a fuckload of work to pull that off. Make a decision. Sell your car and get an LS1, or live with what you've got. -- '98 Firebird Formula http://members.cardomain.com/tailwind Posted By: Reaper
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05-26-2008 @ 13:57:33 Reply | Top | Edit
Well as far as cost goes I have all primo stuff to pull and sell.. body parts are perfect and a 420rwhp proven 383.. sure the LS parts will cost more but the ofset wont be as bad tempting Sarav  --
unlike the song you WILL fear the Reaper !! Rick Speed Posted By: deadly_z28 On: 05-26-2008 @ 14:03:32 Reply | Top | Edit how much you wanna sell it for? -- im putting those blue rags into the intake 
it should be private between giver and receiver-jackie Posted By: hot_red_z28 On: 05-26-2008 @ 14:05:28 Reply | Top | Edit Why do you need an LS1? You already have great power... Is there some sex appeal about it? Also, as far as the purist thing... I'd say putting in a 383 has already defeated that purpose... You already have non-numbers match parts in the engine, so to a true purist, it's already tainted... Same goes for anything else you've done, like changing suspension, etc... I say do what you want with it... A pure car only matters if you plan to sell it to someone who's looking for a pure car... If someone just wants a bad ass ride, they won't care about the X of Y produced figure anyways, but I'm still confused about what converting to an LS1 would buy you, besides a lighter wallet and a good few months worth of hard work... -- 
Read about the LT1: http://garrettreinard.bounceme.net/engine/engine.html Watch it idle: http://garrettreinard.bounceme.net/misc/lt1alive.wmv Grizzly 660 Special Edition For Sale: http://garrettreinard.bounceme.net/grizzly/grizzly.html Posted By: deadly_z28 On: 05-26-2008 @ 14:09:48 Reply | Top | Edit actually if youd consider buying my project hit me up, its for sale, lost interest -- im putting those blue rags into the intake
it should be private between giver and receiver-jackie Posted By: stevethepirate On: 05-26-2008 @ 14:17:32 Reply | Top | Edit I wouldnt do the front end conversion. The LT1 WS6's are rare, and looks BADASS. I honestly think they are the meanest looking 4th gens. If you want to throw an ls1 in there, go ahead. Dont make it a cookie cutter black late 4th gen bird though. There are way too many of them... -- 
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2048599 Posted By: 95ttoplt1
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05-26-2008 @ 14:25:15 Reply | Top | Edit
how much ya selling your pile for luke? --  Posted By: deadly_z28 On: 05-26-2008 @ 14:44:06 Reply | Top | Edit dunno yet, gotta add everything up, im guessing around 4k -- im putting those blue rags into the intake it should be private between giver and receiver-jackie [ Edited on 05/26/2008 @ 14:44:28 ] Posted By: 95ttoplt1
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05-26-2008 @ 14:49:47 Reply | Top | Edit
hmm.... Interested in a LT1 trade? -- Posted By: deadly_z28 On: 05-26-2008 @ 14:50:30 Reply | Top | Edit yup email details to luke@koskan.com -- im putting those blue rags into the intake
it should be private between giver and receiver-jackie Posted By: deadly_z28 On: 05-26-2008 @ 14:51:49 Reply | Top | Edit btw my car needs ALOT of work/parts to be finished -- im putting those blue rags into the intake
it should be private between giver and receiver-jackie Posted By: 95ttoplt1
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05-26-2008 @ 15:01:11 Reply | Top | Edit
email sent, sorry for the hijack O say get a LS1 car and go from there -- Posted By: deadly_z28 On: 05-26-2008 @ 15:07:36 Reply | Top | Edit email sent back, also sorry for hijack -- im putting those blue rags into the intake
it should be private between giver and receiver-jackie Posted By: Reaper
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05-26-2008 @ 15:52:25 Reply | Top | Edit
Well the point was that this car can easily be put back to stock with out alot of bs. I have all the original shocks and struts/ springs and what not.
I just really like the LS1 look better and seeing Red89GTA selling that sweet looking ride made me think about it. I'm also tired of all the LT1 crap breaking like the opti plus I have most of a twin turbo LS1 kit laying around that would also go in. --
unlike the song you WILL fear the Reaper !! Rick Speed Posted By: Fury_786 On: 05-26-2008 @ 15:58:50 Reply | Top | Edit  mine is 1 of 547 Red SS's built in 01...and ive modded the shit out of it-- 
 2001 SS - Few mods 
 so far...7.64 @ 96mph - FTW!
Posted By: ThumperNC24 On: 05-26-2008 @ 16:02:46 Reply | Top | Edit i would honestly just sell your car and get an LS1 car to start, not worth the time or swapping the front end. trade me your car for mine and then you can fuck with mine or sell it 
i want a six speed -- http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2210351 94 Formula A4 
Hooker Cat-Back, BMR STB, 1LE Front Sway Bar, LPE CAI, Eibach Pro-Kit, UMI Adj. PHB, Koni Sport 4/3 Shocks, Taylor 8mm Wires, NGK TR55 Plugs '94 Nissan Sentra 5spd Winter Beater Posted By: raven97 On: 05-26-2008 @ 18:18:11 Reply | Top | Edit Dude KEEP YOUR WS.6. take it from someone who has a 97 WS.6 Formula If you want a LS1 save up your pennies and go buy a whole car, but keep you bird, she is one of the best looking ones on this site IHMO. -- John 
Posted By: RedScreaminMachine On: 05-26-2008 @ 20:09:04 Reply | Top | Edit Every car is a limited production car. I like the front end on an LT1 WS6 ALOT though, and wouldn't mess with it for that reason. Go nuts with the motor. -- Red 2002 Camaro Z28 M6 Blue 1994 Camaro Z28 A4 Posted By: hurley_21_07 On: 05-26-2008 @ 21:08:11 Reply | Top | Edit Pirate you are such a faggot. 
Dan -- '98 Trans-AM WS6 Mods: MTI Clear Lid & Filter, Pacesetter LT's, TSP True Duals, BMR STB, BMR SFC's, 180 Thermo, LS1Edit, Sitting on Sumitomo 315's and TTII's 
==Sold but NEVER forgotten: 1997 Camaro V6 - Intake, Ignition, 180 Thermo== Posted By: stevethepirate On: 05-26-2008 @ 22:10:31 Reply | Top | Edit lol. You know what i mean though, dan. LT1 WS6's are significantly more rare. Not to mention I think they look more badass. --
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2048599 Posted By: 96blkform On: 05-27-2008 @ 11:04:00 Reply | Top | Edit I would not change it at all, I think your car is amazing Rick! However if you do decide to do an LS1 front end swap, let me know I would like your hood! -- 96 Black Formula M6 - fully forged 381 stroker, LE2 heads, LE ported intake, Big Joe O cam, 58mm bbk TB, 30lb injectors, Pacesetter LTs, borla, TNT 150 wetkit & msd 6al ..... AND THEY SAY FORMULA AND BOTTLES ARE FOR BABIES! 
381 Vid: http://media.putfile.com/381-Stroker-Vid  Posted By: freebird13 On: 05-27-2008 @ 14:12:26 Reply | Top | Edit I'd say keep that car the same... you'd be better off in the long run... if you really want an ls1 car then buy one... but dont mess with a limited edition --  Posted By: crunkmaro
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05-28-2008 @ 00:30:44 Reply | Top | Edit
i'll trade you...i just ordered new heads n intake. seriously though, keep it man, who cares if shit breaks, you can fix it, easily. if your worried about the opti THAT much, pick up an ltcc thingy, much cheaper than an ls1. whatever happened to the old plans for it??? dont sell it...you wont get NEAR enough to compensate for the time love and money that you've put into it. -- i rock. Posted By: Red89GTA On: 05-28-2008 @ 02:20:47 Reply | Top | Edit just sell your car and buy mine. -- 2001 Trans Am WS6 SLP lid, SLP smooth bellow, kooks long tube headers, magnaflow catback, subframe connectors, adj. panhard bar. Jason...Long Beach, California aim = JTSurf1685 Posted By: fergymoto On: 05-28-2008 @ 11:15:36 Reply | Top | Edit Don't sell that car man. Or if you really gotta have a LS1 car don't do it to that one. Just go race somebody. Always makes me fall in love with mine all over again -- 
1997 Trans Am WS6 --- 7.58 @ 90MPH 1.65 60' in the 1/8th My Vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plrwEHkL134 Posted By: Reaper
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05-28-2008 @ 18:39:34 Reply | Top | Edit
Don't get me wrong when its running I looove the sound.. no LS1 can sound as good and it kicks ass.. but damn why do these f'in things have to break so much --
unlike the song you WILL fear the Reaper !! Rick Speed Posted By: crunkmaro
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05-29-2008 @ 00:21:45 Reply | Top | Edit
^they aren't breaking, they are asking to be upgraded  ltcc!-- i rock. Posted By: Red89GTA On: 05-29-2008 @ 02:38:06 Reply | Top | Edit sell it and buy mine lol. I have the broken record theme going on here. -- 2001 Trans Am WS6 SLP lid, SLP smooth bellow, kooks long tube headers, magnaflow catback, subframe connectors, adj. panhard bar. Jason...Long Beach, California aim = JTSurf1685
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