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So it turns out HP is more important than Torque... :)

Posted By: hot_red_z28 On: 05-12-2008 @ 21:35:31         Reply | Edit
Wow guys, seriously... I was looking for some info on the conquest tonight, and I came across this astounding explaination of how HP is most important factor in racing...

His math and physics examples are so off it's not even funny, and yet you should have seen how the guys were eating it up and bowing down to him as a great master of computation and thanking him for setting the record straight... LMAO

http://www.yawpower.com/tqvshp.html


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Posted By: roubenbird On: 05-12-2008 @ 22:45:17     Reply | Top | Edit
You can clearly see that the Honda F1 is faster than the diesel, therefore, horsepower is better than torque.
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Posted By: hot_red_z28 On: 05-12-2008 @ 23:22:13     Reply | Top | Edit
Yeah, and apparently the concept of a breaker bar is backwards, because after all, it's harder to support a one pound weight with a 4 foot pole than it is a 1 foot pole... What is that guy smoking?


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Posted By: Jeremiah On: 05-12-2008 @ 23:36:44     Reply | Top | Edit
Actually his breaker bar is correct...it is harder to hold on to a one pound weight at 4ft than 1ft...but his overall arguement is WAY off.
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Posted By: hot_red_z28 On: 05-12-2008 @ 23:40:26     Reply | Top | Edit
Ahh... I misread the lever part... I thought me meant the weight was hanging at the pivot point and would be "wound" up by lifting the long lever... You are correct, with the weight out at the end of the lever, that part is correct...
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Posted By: assbreeze On: 05-13-2008 @ 00:03:36     Reply | Top | Edit
I didn't read the idiot's theories on why, but horsepower is more important than torque in terms of racing (and before some of you go flying off the handle, that doesn't mean you can get by with zero or minimal amounts of torque.)

I don't really feel like going over the intricate points, but if you want a thorough explanation, I'm sure Tino would be more than happy to let you know if you E-mail him or something.
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Posted By: crunkmaro  Yearly Donor since 01-28-2008 On: 05-13-2008 @ 01:33:29     Reply | Top | Edit
stickers > all
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Posted By: ObsidianSixer On: 05-13-2008 @ 02:07:54     Reply | Top | Edit

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Posted By: jumper297 On: 05-13-2008 @ 08:47:49     Reply | Top | Edit
The dumbass talks about the two as if they're independent. HP is a number derived from TQ.

HP=2<Pi>*(TQ)*(RPM)/33000


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Posted By: RS31 On: 05-13-2008 @ 09:29:30     Reply | Top | Edit
hp is just the rate at which you make torque.

1 hp is like 550 lb/ft/sec * rpm or something? I dont remember.

so what's his argument on why a honda still loses to a V8? is it because it doesnt rev to 18000 rpm?
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Posted By: Jeremiah On: 05-13-2008 @ 10:30:38     Reply | Top | Edit
^ he is comparing a diesel to an F1 car...not much of a comparison.
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Posted By: RS31 On: 05-13-2008 @ 12:24:39     Reply | Top | Edit
what? they're practically the same thing

cummins would win anyway
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Posted By: 2piececrank On: 05-13-2008 @ 13:25:29     Reply | Top | Edit
The Audi R8/10 are damn impressive for a diesel and put up hp numbers not too far behind and F1 car.
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