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Posted By: IROCZman15 On: 11-17-2009 @ 20:59:42 Reply | Edit

well, my winter project is to tackle the rust on the car and redo all of the stock-old undercoating underneath. i began by pulling up the carpet, after taking out the seats, center console, radio, moving wires, etc. i looked around online, carpets for the pass cabin go for under $200, so i think i'll scrap this 23 year old carpet for a new one...

looking at the floor pans i noticerd that everywhere is rust free in the car, EXCEPT THE DRIVERS SIDE FLOORPAN AND KICK PANEL AREA. damn. i knew i had to attack it now before it spreads.

this is what i found/knew was there..

while working here on a cooold day

so since i dont have a plasma cutter or mig welder and wanted this done right.. i brough it to PRO FAB CHASSIS located in whitehouse station NJ.. 5 mins off fof RT 78. www.profabchassis.com 908-591-3087 ..they build race cars mostly and work on these cars often too

i asked them to weld in my alston racing subframe connectors.. which can be seen in the above photo.. because i had them only bolted in. i also wanted to run a second set of sfc's along the rockers (spohn, bmr, or umi type).. the guys at pro-fab know their stuff and they recomended i go with a S&W suspension kit for subframe connectors....

..the S&W kit comes with a few extra pipes that weld to the rockers, a few plates that bolt through the floorpans for extra support, and a crossmember support. the kit is designed to be used with the S&W adjustable torque arm, so we ordered that, and this allowed me to run a driveshaft safety loop up there too so the car wont po-go stick if the front u joint fails.

below are the pics of the welded up and bolted S&W kit. it feels very tight. please excuse the underside of the car, its oily and nasty looking... FOR NOW!! in the next 3 months i will be wire-wheeling and sanding down the old undercoating, cleaning off the old oil-spray and redoing the undercoating after a rust-treatment of POR-15. THEN it will look good. maybe a new cat back and an adjustable panhard bar with lca's too.

pics:

saw this 2010 on the way home

quick pics of other projects they have going..

and as for the rust in the floorpans, they did an excellent job cuting it out, patching it and putting rust -treatment on it, when i took photos of it earlier,.. my flash was OFF on the camera, so all the pics turned out badly, ill post other pics of the rust patches in a few days though..

the car felt TIGHT. after a few miles of driving already, i highly recomend the S&W subframe kit.

if anyone wants my old Alston Racing SFC's they can be for sale!

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[ Edited on 11/17/2009 @ 21:18:10 ]

Posted By: snuffles On: 11-17-2009 @ 21:33:08 Reply | Top | Edit

I've heard good things about ProFab, actually.
It's good to know you had a good experience there.
How was their pricing?

And talk to the Birdmeisterman about doing the undercoating.
He'll be able to hook you up.
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Posted By: roubenbird On: 11-17-2009 @ 21:34:33 Reply | Top | Edit

That is NOT much rust at all for a 3rd gen! Good job!

SFC, I love mine.
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Posted By: 4Birdman On: 11-17-2009 @ 22:01:58 Reply | Top | Edit

"And talk to the Birdmeisterman about doing the undercoating.
He'll be able to hook you up."

I was just about to tell you I know this guy who sells killer undercoating and interior sound deadener.

Dropped the dBs in my TA down 5 at idle.

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Posted By: IROCZman15 On: 11-19-2009 @ 22:49:43 Reply | Top | Edit

heres 2 quick photos of the areas where the rust was cut out, sheetmetal was welded in, with seamsealer, and some temporary paint. the bare metal spots nearby will be sanded down a bit more, then rustproofed and covered

pro fab pricing is good. in my opinin worth all that they did .

birdman_ what do you reccomend for undercoating and sound deadener? i know dynama is super expensive, anything else? Por15 for the underside ?
those aspects are basically my next step in the line of work for the witnertime

rb: yea, not too bad for rust, but enough to have me worried before i gave the rest of the car a look over, and noticed it was just that area. i saw tons of photos of worst rust conditions in these 3rd gens on thirdgen.org. seems that area gets it the worst
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[ Edited on 11/20/2009 @ 00:09:39 ]

Posted By: roubenbird On: 11-19-2009 @ 23:14:30 Reply | Top | Edit

I could see road in that white TA I had. The formula is still rust free under body and just a few spots on a couple of panels.

Clean car!
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Posted By: snuffles On: 11-20-2009 @ 01:00:41 Reply | Top | Edit

Catching the cancer before it spread was a good thing.

Dynomat is way overpriced.
With sound deadener, steer away from asphalt based.
I went with Damplifier by Second Skin in my '02.

If you're talking about undercoating the body then birdmizzle will be able to help you.
... I haven't tackled that realm yet.
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