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Posted By: Pocket On: 11-08-2009 @ 00:16:12         Reply | Edit
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_health_care_overhaul

One step closer

Posted By: ChimpysZ28 On: 11-08-2009 @ 00:34:04     Reply | Top | Edit
1.2 Trillion dollar down the toilet...We are so screwed to bad to man wimps live in are country to do anything about it. We aren't the same america as we use to be.
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Posted By: Fury_786 On: 11-08-2009 @ 00:54:03     Reply | Top | Edit
thank you everyone who voted the dems into congress

YOU fukked us
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Posted By: ChimpysZ28 On: 11-08-2009 @ 01:06:16     Reply | Top | Edit
Republican would have been better yeah right. there same thing with the same agenda they do nothing Different.Iam sick of people saying Republican would have made a huge difference.

We are so Far away from what we ounce stood for its embarrassing. Its also sad that we are slowly falling away from the ounce great nation we were ounce before. I hope people learn of this and Take matter into there own hands.
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Posted By: JerseyFrank On: 11-08-2009 @ 01:25:49     Reply | Top | Edit
Dog humping is for sissys
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Posted By: Fury_786 On: 11-08-2009 @ 02:27:32     Reply | Top | Edit
at least the republicans probably wouldn't have wasted this much money as fast.

frank, im not going to debate anything with you.
you've never shown the capacity to present a valid argument.
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Posted By: TransAm64 On: 11-08-2009 @ 03:14:56     Reply | Top | Edit
Republican- Democrat/ What's it matter anymore? You can't fix STUPID!! The debate can go on and on..........Gov't control = FAIL!!
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Posted By: JerseyFrank On: 11-08-2009 @ 07:33:41     Reply | Top | Edit
I like macaroni and cheese, its yumtown
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Posted By: cmerc On: 11-08-2009 @ 09:02:47     Reply | Top | Edit
^ & ^^^ now now children cant we just agree to disagree

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"HE" sucks

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Posted By: Jeremiah On: 11-08-2009 @ 09:33:32     Reply | Top | Edit
britain has had totally socialized medicine since WWII. despite the nazi's best efforts, london is still there.
...and go ask someone in Britian how they like their socialized medicine. When you have to wait 6 months to a year or longer for a basic MRI or if you get cancer and can't get the treatment you need because its too expensive, then we will see how you like it.
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Posted By: Pocket On: 11-08-2009 @ 10:14:44     Reply | Top | Edit
.Iam sick of people saying Republican would have made a huge difference.


Check out the partisan break down of the vote and then tell me the vote wouldnt be different with a Red majority

uh, back your claims up please.
britain has had totally socialized medicine since WWII. despite the nazi's best efforts, london is still there.


Ask anyone who had more than a sprained ankle about how well they like their univ healthcare. Most will give you a gut wrenching story about a loved one with a real issue that had to wait an obscene amount of time or needed to be flown to the US for real treatment because there werent any specialists in the entire region capable of helping them. Usually these people die because the in-country wait is too long and they simply do not have the funds to go overseas

Next, have you actually READ the health bill or some key points, mostly the ones Jer screams about whenever anything relating to the bill pops up? Theres a TON of hidden agendas, kickbacks etc that arent relating to actual health coverage for the poor. Id sit here and list them out but since nearly every other thread has POUNDED them into your skull and you STILL support this atrocity, then Id say you've become the sheeple and are not capable of supporting yourself and should NOT be a part of a system that will forcibly 'take care' of myself and my loved ones
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Posted By: drauka On: 11-08-2009 @ 10:45:16     Reply | Top | Edit
Amen on the healthcare in Britain. It makes the medical staff look like gov't workers. You can't expect someone to try their best and go above and beyond their abilities if they're guaranteed to make the same amount of money regardless. Then, when you KNOW about the way the salaries and pay works, you second guess your career and education choices back in college and say, "I'll be a lawyer or engineer instead. If I'm going to go through the school I might as well get paid for it".

Also, I understand how insurance as a concept works. A big pool of people makes it cheaper to pay out an amount to the few people that need it. Same with car, health, property, etc. If everyone pays a "small" amount, than when you need a big amount back, it's there. That works great...on paper. The problem is, if you can't afford healthcare now, you're not going to be able to afford it after this plan either. So instead of people just not having it, you're going to have the gov't paying for the poorer people to have insurance.

With that said, the money has to come from SOMEWHERE. The supporters of the bill say taxes won't have to be increased, but that's only if it works out as well as they think.

Please correct me if i'm wrong, I have only read a few articles and snippits and would like to better understand it if I'm way off.
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Posted By: Jeremiah On: 11-08-2009 @ 12:22:08     Reply | Top | Edit
Both Maine and Hawaii tried something like this...both promised it would pay for itself and no new taxes, both failed.

The funny part is that Obama is saying that there are no new taxes with this bill when they are written in plain English in the bill. It makes me sick that they can stand up and lie about what is and isn't in this bill.

If you want to find out what is REALLY in the bill without reading it, listen to Rush and/or Hannity. In recent weeks they have been going through and reading exactly what has been put in the bill and then the sound clips of people like Obama denying that these things are in the bill. Obama and Pelosi are banking on YOU to not read it and slip all these things in. They are there, I've pointed them out here many times.
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Posted By: drauka On: 11-08-2009 @ 12:32:33     Reply | Top | Edit
Yeah, I read all your points in the one post where you commented on each one (that was you right Jeremiah?). I read the parts you commented on, I just don't see how it can say what it says and people are still pushing it through.

I think the problem is that people hear "universal free healthcare" and ignore everything else that pertains to it.


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Posted By: Jeremiah On: 11-08-2009 @ 13:17:51     Reply | Top | Edit
But even beyond all of this crap, it is a bad idea. People do not have a right to good health care. They have the right to pursue good health care or the right to find a better job that pays for health care.

There is a reason Hillary Clinton couldn't get this passed for the last two decades... I bet she is pretty pissed that Obama came in and BAM it has a real chance of passing.

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Posted By: Fury_786 On: 11-08-2009 @ 14:55:48     Reply | Top | Edit
fury, you've never shown anything but being an automoton of mass media brainwashing.

your doing me a favor because debating with you is akin to debating with a mormon

where I win tho is that you look at what I say, where as I never look or care about what you say.


@ your grammar & spelling
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Posted By: JerseyFrank On: 11-08-2009 @ 17:52:39     Reply | Top | Edit
grammar and spielling is abut teh unly ting yu can laff at
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Posted By: Fury_786 On: 11-08-2009 @ 19:09:08     Reply | Top | Edit
what about sentence structure and your overall points?

you sound like an idiot telling me that you "win" because i happened to see what you typed on a message board OMFG!!!11!!1oneone11!!!eleven!!!

what happened to you not reading my posts?

looks like by your standards, i win.

kthx


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Posted By: Fury_786 On: 11-08-2009 @ 19:13:39     Reply | Top | Edit
in another post not pertaining to said forum-idiot...

the article in the newspaper today said avg. yearly cost for the "cheap" plan would be $5300...where would people who don't make any money (minimum wage or part timers) get that kind of funding? is the govt. fukking nuts?

and if you don't have insurance, be prepared to fork over another 2.5% of your yearly wages to uncle obama just because you're too poor to have insurance.


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Posted By: cmerc On: 11-08-2009 @ 19:15:37     Reply | Top | Edit
boy if I was still a mod, I would give you both two days in the cooler!
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Posted By: Fury_786 On: 11-08-2009 @ 19:17:47     Reply | Top | Edit
why? because im practicing my freedom of speech without being vulgar or swearing?
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Posted By: JerseyFrank On: 11-08-2009 @ 20:35:25     Reply | Top | Edit
suck my wanger you monkey-jerking rapist.
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Posted By: ChimpysZ28 On: 11-08-2009 @ 20:44:23     Reply | Top | Edit
^ that was uncalled for.

its funny how there worried about health care and not the fact that the unemployment rate is over 10% or the fact that are dollar is going to hell, or maybe they have forgotten that they failed with this Green Crap.

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Posted By: HBHRacing On: 11-08-2009 @ 21:30:41     Reply | Top | Edit
Watch it guys. Jim doesn't really give much tolerance to political threads. Be nice or ill end it here.

Posted By: Fury_786 On: 11-08-2009 @ 21:31:56     Reply | Top | Edit
suck my wanger you monkey-jerking rapist.


/frank
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Posted By: Pocket On: 11-08-2009 @ 21:33:39     Reply | Top | Edit
Ignoring the mess above, there seems to be hope...
Sort of atleast. The senate doesnt seem to like the bill health bill so it likely wont go far. The down side is they have their own

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_health_care_overhaul


Posted By: GOATS2QUICK On: 11-08-2009 @ 21:36:58     Reply | Top | Edit
stay healthy or ? im worried .
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Posted By: JerseyFrank On: 11-08-2009 @ 22:43:06     Reply | Top | Edit
no it was TOTALLY called for. He eats shit straight out of his mother's asshole and he wants ME to take pictures? get fucking real.
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Posted By: snuffles On: 11-08-2009 @ 23:03:21     Reply | Top | Edit
^Jackie needs to come in here and wash your mouth out with soap.

I'd just send the e-mail, Harlan.
This thread hit rock bottom when I checked it this afternoon.
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Posted By: JerseyFrank On: 11-08-2009 @ 23:17:10     Reply | Top | Edit
you need to get electrolysis for your wife's gorilla tits
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Posted By: Tyrel On: 11-08-2009 @ 23:36:23     Reply | Top | Edit
"you need to get electrolysis for your wife's gorilla tits"

Don't lie, you liked them.
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Posted By: JerseyFrank On: 11-08-2009 @ 23:38:16     Reply | Top | Edit
yes I licked them
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Posted By: Tyrel On: 11-08-2009 @ 23:41:32     Reply | Top | Edit
kudos, well done.
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Posted By: Fury_786 On: 11-09-2009 @ 01:29:46     Reply | Top | Edit
to hell with this...i try to be somewhat decent and reasonable but some asshat has to act like a 3 year old so fukk it.
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Posted By: ChimpysZ28 On: 11-09-2009 @ 01:31:01     Reply | Top | Edit
^ can i give you a kiss?
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Posted By: JerseyFrank On: 11-09-2009 @ 06:02:20     Reply | Top | Edit
kiss him in the winking brown eye, and make sure its french
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Posted By: cmerc On: 11-09-2009 @ 06:52:46     Reply | Top | Edit
^isn't there more than enough hate going around without adding to the pile?
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Posted By: JerseyFrank On: 11-09-2009 @ 07:13:16     Reply | Top | Edit
i'm not hating, at the very least i'm amusing myself. if politics on a motor-car forum became a serious matter overnight I must have missed it.
whats so funny bout peace love and giving rusty trombone's behind chuck-e-cheese at 3 in the afternoon?
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Posted By: cmerc On: 11-09-2009 @ 08:06:05     Reply | Top | Edit
^ OK, assumin' I accept that as truth, then I guess now I am gonna get and cus you two are trying to muscle in on me and "you know whose" teretory, and just are not living up to the standards we have set.

So, Either get it right, or quit
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Posted By: JerseyFrank On: 11-09-2009 @ 08:27:44     Reply | Top | Edit
i'll only stand down because I respect your former position of commodore. That being said, the standards of my seniors are usually double, and are to be disregarded for not being able to create a perfect world in the time given each generation. Seeing these failures I tell you,old man,that the battle is yours, but the war is far from over.
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Posted By: cmerc On: 11-09-2009 @ 08:56:49     Reply | Top | Edit
LOL good mam Frank, but I know that secretly you realise that you could never measure up to the standards set by "Breeze"
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Posted By: 94RedFormula On: 11-09-2009 @ 09:18:30     Reply | Top | Edit
OMG, have you all lost your minds??
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Posted By: Jim_Hogan  Site Owner since 09-01-1994 On: 11-09-2009 @ 09:20:53     Reply | Top | Edit
Thread Locked By a Moderator I would have done this lastnight but i was away from the computer. I wont let a bunch of name calling stand. I don't care if you have a debate, but if you cant do it like an adult the thread will end. Jersey, consider yourself warned. Keep it up and you will find yourself on a vacation from the site to cool down. http://www.fbody.com/anything/1042274

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