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Help Removing Spoiler and fixing 3rd Brake Light?

Posted By: mrcrazyhimself On: 05-26-2008 @ 21:34:15         Reply | Edit
I have a cracked spoiler on my 89' Firebird, but have a replacement ready to be installed but i'm having trouble removing the old spoiler. I see these black covers under the hatch that I assume remove the spoiler but are glued tight and I can't even remove one. Any advice on this to help get the new spoiler on? Also, I'm not sure if I need to have a 3rd brake light for my inspection on an 89? I live in new york
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Posted By: mrcrazyhimself On: 05-27-2008 @ 19:04:59     Reply | Top | Edit
Anyone? I'm doing this project tmrw...
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1989 Pontiac Firebird with 2.8

Posted By: camaro91 On: 05-27-2008 @ 22:39:02     Reply | Top | Edit
those are just black plugs. they're not glued in (shouldn't be) just get a screwdriver underneath it and pry it out. then there is a bolt maybe a 13mm?
and yes i do believe you need your 3rd brake light. if it came on there it needs to stay on there.
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Posted By: dan On: 05-28-2008 @ 23:13:35     Reply | Top | Edit
3rd brake light is federal mandate on all 86 and newer cars so...yeah..

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Posted By: LeadFootedRacer On: 06-01-2008 @ 01:16:41     Reply | Top | Edit
if it came with it, its gotta be there.

same thing with cat laws, if it had it stock, its still gotta have one.
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Posted By: hurst On: 06-09-2008 @ 20:32:46     Reply | Top | Edit
as far as i know in pa, it only has to work if it is there, so if the 3rd brake light is not there, it doesnt have to work, removed the spoiler and 3rd brake light off my 88 formula welded up the holes, and the back end has a nice clean look

Posted By: dan On: 06-13-2008 @ 21:32:35     Reply | Top | Edit
^whoever does your inspection is an idiot then thats all..
any car made since 1986 is FEDERALLY mandated to have a 3rd brake light present and functional
it is illegal to remove the 3rd brake light on any car that came with one from the factory
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98 formula m6 13.125 at 105.22 1.949 60' with just a lid
84 trans am lsx project
92 d250 tow rig, 99 firebird vsux

Posted By: hurst On: 07-09-2008 @ 19:25:57     Reply | Top | Edit
thats why my car always passes inspection, and i am also a certified pa inspection mechanic, even though i do not work in a garage anymore and in pennsylvania, it ONLY has to work if it is present

Posted By: Pocket On: 07-10-2008 @ 01:23:47     Reply | Top | Edit
Doesnt make you any less of an idiot
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Posted By: roubenbird On: 07-10-2008 @ 10:05:53     Reply | Top | Edit
Wait, my 93 S-10 doesn't have one, was that on passenger cars only?
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15.543 @ 88.21mph

Posted By: hurst On: 07-10-2008 @ 20:18:57     Reply | Top | Edit
big suprise that pocket has a smartass comment

Posted By: Calaban007 On: 07-10-2008 @ 20:22:47     Reply | Top | Edit
I have to add that my 91 nissan stanza came with one and I took it out. I never had an issue getting it inspected at several different places while I owned the car. When I bought it, the back dash was falling apart (particle board) so I cut a piece of paneling and replaced it, and left out the 3rd brake light. It may be federal law, but no one enforces it apparently. I've never heard of anyone even being stopped for it being out as long as the lower two are working.
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Posted By: Pocket On: 07-11-2008 @ 01:41:11     Reply | Top | Edit
Tampering with safety and emission equipment is a federal offense

Whether or not the county inspectors enforce them isnt the issue

Its still illegal to remove smog, tint windows, remove/tint/cover tail lights, install non factory seatbelts, seats, etc

Knowing the steep fines and possible jailtime for inspection offices, its a pretty sound statement that you, Hurst, are an idiot and I dont need a smartass comment to prove it.
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Posted By: hurst On: 07-11-2008 @ 05:19:42     Reply | Top | Edit
yet you still will and do

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